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Why gas stoves matter to the climate – and the gas industry: Keeping them means homes will use gas for heating too
Yahoo! News ^ | January 18, 2023 | By Daniel Cohan

Posted on 01/18/2023 7:17:09 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Gas stoves are a leading source of hazardous indoor air pollution, but they emit only a tiny share of the greenhouse gases that warm the climate. Why, then, have they assumed such a heated role in climate politics?

This skirmish may seem like a tempest in a teapot, but it reveals important contours of the battlefield on which climate politics are waged. As I explain in my book, “gas stoves matter to climate and to the gas industry because they serve as gateway appliances to the dominant residential uses of natural gas: heating and hot water.

Installing more-efficient furnaces, better insulation and smart thermostats are helpful first steps, but getting close to zero will require switching to electricity for space heating and water heating. In the U.S., 46% of homes use natural gas as their main source of heat, 40% use electricity, 10% use other fuels such as heating oil or propane, and 4% are unheated. For water heating, the percentages are 47% gas, 47% electricity and 6% other fuels.

Today, electric and gas heating have similar carbon footprints, since roughly 60% of U.S. electricity is generated from fossil fuels and many homes use inefficient electric resistance heaters. But the emissions intensity of electricity is rapidly declining as coal plants close and solar and wind power expands.

Homes built today will endure far beyond Biden’s 2050 net-zero target. And the longer the gas-is-better myth persists, the harder it will be to fully electrify new homes from the start. As I see it, if “cooking with gas” keeps us tethering new homes to natural gas grids for decades to come, our health, climate and wallets will pay the price.

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KEYWORDS: cooking; danielcohan; gas; globalwarming; naturalgas; socialism; thecommittee; thenghvcommittee
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“Imagine the filter systems they will want to install on your piping vent stacks!”

Rendering the vents non-functional and produce the very issue they claim.

This is how they do things. They themselves create the very issue they are claiming to prevent.


61 posted on 01/18/2023 9:06:38 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"We got trouble
Right here in River City
With a capital T and it rhymes with G..."

...and it stands for Gateway Appliance...

62 posted on 01/18/2023 9:09:50 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Me switching would make things worse. Coal is the major source of electricity here.


63 posted on 01/18/2023 9:13:09 AM PST by pas
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To: Cautious Optimism

They just keep pushing everything to the electric side of the equation without ever explaining where all this new electricity is supposed to come from. Wind and solar will never in the foreseeable future provide anything close to what is needed.

So, we’re back to what I’ve been saying for years. The energy policy of the Left is no energy for the masses. They found they couldn’t sell that to people, so they switched to the let’s ban fossil fuels and go totally electric produced by clean wind and solar. There may be just enough idiots out to buy that.


64 posted on 01/18/2023 9:15:40 AM PST by redangus
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“...gas stoves matter to climate and to the gas industry because they serve as gateway appliances to the dominant residential uses of natural gas: heating and hot water.”

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Nyuk! Nyuk! Now hoooold on thar! Yabadabadooo! and other over-the-top comical sound effects.


65 posted on 01/18/2023 9:16:40 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David.)
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To: Zathras

Every single day for at least 10-20 minutes. Some days if I’m cooking a big meal, it may be on for an hour or more.

You obviously don’t cook much.


66 posted on 01/18/2023 9:23:49 AM PST by redangus
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To: Bon of Babble

It really sucks when people screw up the formatting of the forum with stupid links like yours.


67 posted on 01/18/2023 9:24:42 AM PST by KobraKai
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

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68 posted on 01/18/2023 9:40:44 AM PST by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first, we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: glorgau

US, the most productive/efficient country in the world accounts for 10-15% of so-called “greenhouse emissions” globally.

China accounts for 30-35%. India 10-15% and growing. In total 85% of greenhouse gases come from other countries.


69 posted on 01/18/2023 9:44:00 AM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“but getting close to zero will require switching to electricity...”

Except that doesn’t get anyone any “closer to zero”. It just punts the use of natural gas further up the line to get burned at the power plant to supply all the extra electricity you’ll need, since “green” energy won’t cover it.


70 posted on 01/18/2023 9:48:06 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: brianl703

“the builders aim to build the cheapest house possible”

It’s like the stock market rule “buy low, sell high”, except with builders it’s “build cheap, sell expensive”.


71 posted on 01/18/2023 9:50:15 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: central_va

My elderly mom bought a new glass top electric stove some years ago to replace an old style electric stove with with the coils. She had to buy all new pots and pans to do stove top cooking.


72 posted on 01/18/2023 9:52:48 AM PST by EVO X ( )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I hate to tell Joey but we’re building a new house with a gas stove and a woodstove. 😏


73 posted on 01/18/2023 10:18:42 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There is a reason gas is used for home heating.

Want to see your bills skyrocket, live in a cold climate and replace your forced air gas furnace for a forced air electric one.


74 posted on 01/18/2023 10:22:16 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Cautious Optimism; Oldeconomybuyer
Is it just me or does it seem that the progressive eco alarmists won’t be satisfied until they push pull force us to become Luddites. Of course with the exception of themselves.

No, the progressive eco alarmists won’t be satisfied until they push pull force us to become dead

75 posted on 01/18/2023 10:53:04 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Daniel Cohan, Associate Professor of Civil and Environmental Engineering, Rice University. Daniel Cohan receives funding from Project Innerspace, the Carbon Hub, and the Energy Foundation.

If ever the time comes to stop the sugar honey ice tea.

76 posted on 01/18/2023 11:03:11 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Hopefully as far north as Ellijay.


77 posted on 01/18/2023 11:05:40 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: EVO X

My wife reminded me yesterday that was the reason she got rid of her Le Creuset cookware.


78 posted on 01/18/2023 11:13:01 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: jerod

I would never suggest violence....so a spike inserted into her head nice and slow seems reasonable...one less CO2 emmitter.


79 posted on 01/18/2023 11:17:34 AM PST by centermass_socrates (Thanks for your service Grandpa (US Army Air Corp 388th Heavy Bomb. Group 1943-45) I still miss you.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Any stove contributing to house air pollution just needs a vent over it. If you lack that just switch to charcoal and kill your family in one fell swoop.

This is just stupid BS and everyone needs to call them on it every chance they have.


80 posted on 01/18/2023 1:10:41 PM PST by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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