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Why 65 Percent of Fourth Graders Can't Really Read
PJMedia ^ | FEBRUARY 12, 2023 | RICK MORAN

Posted on 02/13/2023 12:40:25 PM PST by george76

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To: george76
I'll tell you what happened in a nutshell: The Teacher's Unions decided that teaching how to read a phonetic language (English) using phonics was somehow wrong. "Rote kills". So, they started teaching reading using the "whole language" approach, which did not give the kids any foundation to help them. They also tried to push the idea that "phonics" would be used for the rest of their school life. No, it was used to give a foundation to learning how to read the English language. Whole language reading begins when they are in the 4th or 5th grade.

It was a way to stifle the good readers so that there was not such a discrepancy between races in that subject. Your kid had to suffer to hid the discrepancy.

41 posted on 02/13/2023 1:13:56 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: JSM_Liberty

Well, sure. But I meant twice the time. Your twice is a premium and the subject for another thread.


42 posted on 02/13/2023 1:14:28 PM PST by aspasia
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To: george76

As a teacher, I am disgusted by CRT and SEL initiatives that seem to do all they can to assign blame to everyone but the real culprits - the families themselves. Government schools are perfectly in step with indoctrinating our kids with the latest SJW garbage, liberal politics and the dumbing down of academic standards. To what end? “Graduating” inept and inarticulate, non-critical thinkers that make perfect sheep for government programs.


43 posted on 02/13/2023 1:16:14 PM PST by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: Socon-Econ

In saner times, kids read books at home.

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Back in day when I was a child we had what was called
‘bookmobiles’ that came around and youngsters were able
to check them out for reading. I think it was every two
weeks. During summer months when school was out they
came to locations in various communities.


44 posted on 02/13/2023 1:17:13 PM PST by deport
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To: george76
This is pathetic.

I was addicted to Hardy Boys novels by the time I started kindergarten.

45 posted on 02/13/2023 1:17:20 PM PST by TChad (Progressives are in favor of removing healthy sex organs from children. Conservatives oppose this.)
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To: ridesthemiles
My two children were the same. I started reading little picture books to them when they were not even able to sit up by themselves. I have forgotten how many copies of the Muppet Babies Alphabet" book that I purchased. Also, a little book on colors. But, I was a stay-at-home mother and had the time to sit and read to my children. They are still readers.
46 posted on 02/13/2023 1:17:43 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: aspasia
Suckers, send them to public school and then they have to teach it all at home anyhow

"Suckers"? Wouldn't the real suckers be the ones who leave something important for their kid to learn to the government?

But it's really simpler than that. My parents taught me to read and write when I was 4--because I kept asking. I was writing unintelligible squiggles on paper in imitation of real writing anyway.

I was a drawing nut. So they used that. My mother wrote the name of some object she knew I could draw on the page. I had to draw a picture of the thing above its name.

Ideally, basic literacy is not something that should be entrusted to public employees. They don't know your kid.

47 posted on 02/13/2023 1:18:32 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Not surprising. Public schools in my area are at 11% - 12% reading proficiency.


48 posted on 02/13/2023 1:18:59 PM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. (Psalm 33:12))
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To: george76; 6amgelsmama; 100American; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

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The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

Public schools are worse than useless, unless all you care about is free babysitting and you don't care what happens to your kids while they are there.

49 posted on 02/13/2023 1:20:04 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: aspasia

You’re living in a fantasy. Real life, children need parents. Parents who are lazy think the schools will teach their kids everything. It was never true.


50 posted on 02/13/2023 1:20:06 PM PST by Varda
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To: george76

Teach em to pole dance at drag queen shows. That’s all they need to know. (/sarcasm).


51 posted on 02/13/2023 1:20:47 PM PST by Pajamajan ( PRAY FOR OUR NATION. Never be a peaceful slave in a\ new Socialistmerica)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
There's more. About 25% of the children in one school that I'm aware of are “refugees” from Iraq, Afghanistan, and Sudan. They don't know English. The teachers don't know how to communicate in the refugees’ respective languages. I'm sure the warehousing of refugees is a money game. So it goes in Austin, Texas.
52 posted on 02/13/2023 1:20:48 PM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater 2024)
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To: robel

“Fourth graders can’t read because they were kept at home for two years.”

This was a glaring problem long before WuFlu and the lockdowns.


53 posted on 02/13/2023 1:22:09 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Stupid is supposed to hurt.)
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To: robel

Fourth graders can’t read because they were kept at home for two years.


And they were kept at home at a crucial time in their educational development. After having spent a career as a jr. high teacher I still substitute and the change that has occurred since my retirement 10 years ago is stunning to me.

Nearly all lessons are conducted through either a smart board or to students on their individual chrome books. Actual books appear to only be rarely used. Only the brightest or most driven students actually appear to read and do any kind of math without the crutch of a calculator. They are very good at ‘looking things up’, but not so much when it comes to actually ‘knowing’ anything. I find it all very discouraging.


54 posted on 02/13/2023 1:22:21 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: deport
During summer months when school was out they came to locations in various communities.

In my little town, there was a Community Center; and, in the summer a small room that had an outside door, was turned into a reading library. I would go there and get books to read all through the summer.

55 posted on 02/13/2023 1:23:06 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: george76
When I was in fourth grade, I was already doing book reports on books like "Call Of The Wild" and "Red Badge Of Courage."

I wonder if those two books are even allowed in public schools these days.

56 posted on 02/13/2023 1:23:37 PM PST by SamAdams76 (4,895,899 Truth | 87,656,930 Twitter)
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To: LibertarianLiz

And, get this. They want a new language. A language that doesn’t square with anything they consider anthropocentric. Books aren’t necessary. Functional literacy is what they want. How to read bathroom signs.


57 posted on 02/13/2023 1:23:38 PM PST by aspasia
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To: CFW

In the mid sixties, I was introduced to the “see and say” method of reading instruction being taught to a girlfriend’s son. He had no problem with “elephant”, or “giraffe”, but when it came to “they, them ,what, when, where, why, the” and others, he had no idea since there were no pictures for those words. He would guess two or three of them, and if not right, would get frustrated.


58 posted on 02/13/2023 1:24:09 PM PST by Ed Condon (subliminal messages here in invisible ink)
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To: Jolla

“I thank the Lord I was educated in the 60s and 70s.”

Me, too. NY state now is an educational hell hole, but in the ‘50s and ‘60s when I was there, it kicked ass. I appreciate the education I got there.


59 posted on 02/13/2023 1:24:29 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Stupid is supposed to hurt.)
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To: Varda

Real life, children need parents. Absolutely. Public schooling? Good luck. I think the OP shows you the morass.


60 posted on 02/13/2023 1:25:24 PM PST by aspasia
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