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U.S. could face possible weapons shortage as it continues to supply military aid to Ukraine, war game shows
CBS News ^ | February 23, 2023 | David Martin

Posted on 02/23/2023 5:21:58 PM PST by McGruff

With the war in Ukraine entering its second year — and the U.S. continuing to provide the embattled country with military aid in the form of rockets, guns and ammunition — the Pentagon is stepping up production of critically-needed supplies.

Cancian said Ukraine's use of artillery shells far outstrips the Pentagon's capacity to make them.

Precision-fired munitions for the long-range HIMARS system are another need, so Lockheed Martin is gearing up to turn out one new rocket every 10 minutes at its plant in Arkansas.

And with the U.S. struggling to keep Ukraine supplied in its fight against a decrepit Russian military, there is concern about what could happen if the U.S. were to become involved in a conflict with China. CSIS recently conducted a war game that showed that the U.S. would run out of a key weapon — Long Range Anti Ship Missiles (LRASM) — while trying to stop a Chinese invasion of Taiwan.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ammunition; arkansas; artilleryshells; china; defense; himars; lockheed; lockheedmartin; prc; shortages; taiwan; ukraine; weaponsshortage
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1 posted on 02/23/2023 5:21:58 PM PST by McGruff
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To: McGruff

Well, I guess we won’t be invading Iraq then.


2 posted on 02/23/2023 5:23:40 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: McGruff

The US needs to develop a cheap and easily manufactured replacement for the Javelin ATGM. These were very effective.


3 posted on 02/23/2023 5:27:00 PM PST by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: McGruff

“Oh, drat! We have nothing to defend Taiwan with. What rotten luck!”

“Hey, Big Guy, I sold five more paintings for two million total.”

“That’s great, Hunter. Well folks, at least there is good news on this tragic day....”


4 posted on 02/23/2023 5:30:38 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: McGruff

I shoot ultra long range and it requires to reload because I have to develop a round that is fitted to each my rifles barrels harmonics. I am absolutely struggling in Alaska trying to find powders. I think it might be the same case in the lower 48. Anyway, one of the guys that I normally get powders from says because of the powder I’m looking for is also used for heavy artillery. The stock goes to them first. Made sense considering the timing of when powder became so short.


5 posted on 02/23/2023 5:31:29 PM PST by Bigbrown
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To: McGruff

Kinda thought that was the point. Remember how Reagan led us to outspend russia and they collapsed under their own weight? Karma is a...well, you know. We’ll need balloons in the future to conduct warfare. Too bad the payloads will be limited to how many pounds of rocks can be carried.


6 posted on 02/23/2023 5:31:35 PM PST by Qwapisking ("IF the Second goes first the First goes second" L.Star )
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To: McGruff
the U.S. struggling to keep Ukraine supplied in its fight against a decrepit Russian military

People should think deeply about that statement.

We think we are such a strong and vibrant economy. We are the arsenal of democracy, right? We are churning out those weapons to help little ol' Ukraine, right?

And who do we face? Just a buffoonish, decrepit Russian military. Ha! They don't stand a chance, right?

And yet, we are struggling, and they are preparing their greatest offensive yet.

Everything they tell us is a lie.

7 posted on 02/23/2023 5:31:48 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (“You want it one way, but it's the other way”)
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To: McGruff

“..the Pentagon is stepping up production of critically-needed supplies...”

a bonanza for the military equipment industry. Is this the reason Biden wanted this war so badly????


8 posted on 02/23/2023 5:38:03 PM PST by elpadre (nd )
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To: ClearCase_guy
Everything they tell us is a lie.
9 posted on 02/23/2023 5:39:58 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: McGruff

Isn’t the supply of ammunition for wartime use kind of a priority? Haven’t much had that problem for years now, that I recall. We don’t have arsenals and armories any more?

Maybe the persecution of manufacturers of guns and ammunitions should be called off, and they be allowed to obtain the necessary financing and supply allocations they need to assure an adequate and free-flowing trade in the business they do so well.


10 posted on 02/23/2023 5:41:21 PM PST by alloysteel (Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right. - Isaac Asimov)
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To: McGruff

Well, our weaponry and stuff abandoned in Afghanistan were seen on Ebay. They could check there.

Talk about a gun buy back!


11 posted on 02/23/2023 5:48:02 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("Okay. As long as the paperwork is clean, you boys can do what you like out there." -Fifi)
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To: Bigbrown

Try some IMR 4166. Temperature insensitive and really clean burning.


12 posted on 02/23/2023 5:48:22 PM PST by rangerX (Sua Sponte)
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To: taxcontrol

I surmise that cheap and easily manufactured does not equal very effective.


13 posted on 02/23/2023 5:49:24 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Blacks have placed stronger chains on themselves than the slave masters of old ever forged.)
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To: rangerX

“Try some IMR 4166. Temperature insensitive and really clean burning.“

I shoot a couple of .338 Lapua’s. My go to powder is RL33 and then RL 25, H 1000, and just trying to work some loads for US 869. Never tried the power you talked about, I’ll give it a shot if it’s usable for my heavy loads.


14 posted on 02/23/2023 5:51:46 PM PST by Bigbrown
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To: Bigbrown

I don’t know if that is true or not because artillery uses a much different powder than rifles.


15 posted on 02/23/2023 5:56:07 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Blacks have placed stronger chains on themselves than the slave masters of old ever forged.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Not much artillery ammo in Afghanistan.

Lots of 5.56 and 7.62, but there is no small arms ammo shortage in Ukraine AFAIK.

And MRAPS. Which it turns out the Ukes have decided are very useful. They are very resistant to artillery near-misses, unlike, say, BMPs and BTRs. So you could try to get those back.


16 posted on 02/23/2023 5:57:07 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: alloysteel

We buy our weapons from China /s


17 posted on 02/23/2023 5:57:34 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.)
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To: alloysteel

There are no operating primary lead smelters in the United States.

Think about that.


18 posted on 02/23/2023 5:57:46 PM PST by henkster (He's got a day time job; he's doing all right)
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To: alloysteel

There are arsenals and armories and commercial plants. The trouble is all these have been scaled back over the last 30 years.


19 posted on 02/23/2023 5:58:45 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: henkster

That’s the US regulatory environment at work.
All American problems are self inflicted.


20 posted on 02/23/2023 5:59:41 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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