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Seymour Hersh: The Ukraine Refugee Question
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Posted on 05/22/2023 7:08:40 PM PDT by ganeemead

Some thoughts on cleaning the gargantuan neocon mess...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: 00seriously; 0seymourhersh; commies4putinswar; communistpropaganda; newsforumabuse; newskarenabuse; notanewsarticle; notanewssite; notanotherkaren; refugees; ukraine; war
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1 posted on 05/22/2023 7:08:40 PM PDT by ganeemead
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To: ganeemead

My nephew who just started his IDF duty has been broken hearted by the Ukrainian Jewish girls who recently made Aliyah to Israel.

So much so he’s taken a few home to stay with him just for the evening.

Not exactly up to mom’s standards, or his rabbi, but soldiers are soldiers.


2 posted on 05/22/2023 7:19:31 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: ganeemead; little jeremiah; bitt

Here’s an excerpt from the article:

There is no support in the Biden Administration for any settlement that involves Zelensky’s departure, and the leadership in France and England “are too beholden” to Biden to contemplate such a scenario. There is a reality that some elements in the American intelligence community can’t ignore, the official said, even if the White House is ignoring it: “Ukraine is running out of money and it is known that the next four or months are critical. And Eastern Europeans are talking about a deal.” The issue for them, the official told me, “is how to get the United States to stop supporting Zelensky,” The White House support goes beyond the needs of the war: “We are paying all of the retirement funds—the 401k’s—for Ukraine.”


3 posted on 05/22/2023 7:24:19 PM PDT by thinden (buckle up ....)
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To: ganeemead

It makes me sick that this country is behind keeping this nightmare afloat and paying all the bills to boot.


4 posted on 05/22/2023 7:24:37 PM PDT by dforest (Get kiryandil out of the cornfield)
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To: dforest

Pretty sickening, isn’t it.....


5 posted on 05/22/2023 7:28:33 PM PDT by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: dforest

blame Russia and Putin

they created this war out of nothing

and they’re the ones that keep it going


6 posted on 05/22/2023 7:38:38 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: Jewbacca
So much so he’s taken a few home to stay with him just for the evening.

That wouldn’t interest the DC elites unless they were under 12. /s

7 posted on 05/22/2023 7:42:10 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: canuck_conservative

Stuff a sock in it fool.


8 posted on 05/22/2023 7:43:02 PM PDT by dforest (Get kiryandil out of the cornfield)
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To: dforest

you support a country that poisons political opponents with radioactive polonium

who’s the real fool?


9 posted on 05/22/2023 7:47:20 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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10 posted on 05/22/2023 7:54:56 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: canuck_conservative

Buzz off moron. Do you always beat your mother?

You remind me of Butthead.


11 posted on 05/22/2023 7:57:31 PM PDT by dforest (Get kiryandil out of the cornfield)
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To: thinden; ganeemead

Anyone who hasn’t watched Col.MacGregor on Ukraine should watch. This is specifically about Bakhmut but there are other good ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWL3hgjKGHI
Bakhmut in Russian Hands, Now What? - Col Doug Macgregor

Here’s a link to many more of his comments on the Ukraine/Russia war:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=col+doug+macgregor+-+ukraine+russia+latest


12 posted on 05/22/2023 8:27:09 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Never worry about anything. Worry never solved any problem or moved any stone.)
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To: thinden

I read the Polish press every day, which includes a lot of news from Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia. The notion that the Eastern Europeans or Scandinavians are pushing for Zelensky to go is pure, unadulterated bullcrap.


13 posted on 05/22/2023 8:34:52 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Jewbacca

An he send one to my son? He needs an Eastern European wife!


14 posted on 05/22/2023 9:11:14 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: canuck_conservative; dforest
you support a country that poisons political opponents with radioactive polonium who’s the real fool?

Number of nuclear-tipped missiles which Ukraine has aimed at America's heartland: ZERO.

Number of nuclear-tipped missiles which Russia has aimed at America's heartland: MORE THAN 5,000!

Game, Set, and Match!

Regards,

15 posted on 05/22/2023 9:57:28 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: pierrem15

The premise underlying your contribution is that governments don’t say one thing to the press and another behind closed doors.
I consider that unadulterated bullcrap, but you’re free to hold that opinion.


16 posted on 05/23/2023 4:32:40 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: thinden
The issue for them, the official told me, “is how to get the United States to stop supporting Zelensky,” The White House support goes beyond the needs of the war: “We are paying all of the retirement funds—the 401k’s—for Ukraine.”

All of our Ukraine-bound tax money is being skimmed by the DNC to use against us. Change my mind.

17 posted on 05/23/2023 5:19:37 AM PDT by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
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To: Gunslingr3
Of course I realize that governments say things privately they won't say to the press. But opposing Zelensky would such a volte face it would opposed by some in government who would leak it. These are also democracies, so a position this unpopular would tend to be leaked anyway to run up the flag pole to change public opinion. But I don't see any sign of that in their media, which, btw, is far freer than our is.

The Eastern Europeans and Scandinavians are the biggest boosters of Ukraine in Europe, so I can't see them making such a change. Hersh also has a 50 year history of saying anything to sabotage the US, which gives him a strong confirmation bias regarding any story damaging to the US.

18 posted on 05/23/2023 6:34:29 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: IncPen

The issue for them, the official told me, “is how to get the United States to stop supporting Zelensky,” The White House support goes beyond the needs of the war: “We are paying all of the retirement funds—the 401k’s—for Ukraine.”

All of our Ukraine-bound tax money is being skimmed by the DNC to use against us. Change my mind.

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brandon & yellen send $150bb to the Ukes.....
Ukes buy crytp from Sam & FTX.....
Sam & FTX donate to the pols....

check it out from CBS article:

“Sam Bankman-Fried donated over $40 million in the 2022 election cycle. Where did it go?”

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ftx-sam-bankman-fried-political-donations-2022/

another prime case of our own gummit funding our enemies


19 posted on 05/23/2023 8:21:54 AM PDT by thinden (buckle up ....)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

“An he send one to my son? He needs an Eastern European wife!”

These women are very beautiful and smart.

Not particularly anyone I’d want in my family, though.

Traditional morals are curiously absent. They are technically Jewish, but act like libertines.

Not that my nephew is much better, currently.

He was raised right and will come around.


20 posted on 05/23/2023 8:22:21 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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