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Nazi Symbols on Ukraine’s Front Lines Highlight Thorny Issues of History
NY Times ^

Posted on 06/05/2023 7:43:35 AM PDT by navysealdad

Troops’ use of patches bearing Nazi emblems risks fueling Russian propaganda and spreading imagery that the West has spent a half-century trying to eliminate. Since Russia began its invasion of Ukraine last year, the Ukrainian government and NATO allies have posted, then quietly deleted, three seemingly innocuous photographs from their social media feeds: a soldier standing in a group, another resting in a trench and an emergency worker posing in front of a truck.

In each photograph, Ukrainians in uniform wore patches featuring symbols that were made notorious by Nazi Germany and have since become part of the iconography of far-right hate groups.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: azovbattalion; believeusnotyoureyes; letsjustmoveon; nazis; nazisloveukraine; nothingtoseehere; russia; thomasgibbonsneff; trustpresidentbiden; ukraine; ukrainelovesnazis; ukrainenazis; zelensky; zelenskyqs
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1 posted on 06/05/2023 7:43:35 AM PDT by navysealdad
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To: navysealdad

So the problem isn’t that they are Nazis, it’s that it is “fueling Russian propaganda”.


2 posted on 06/05/2023 7:45:01 AM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: navysealdad

Uh oh. What’s a good Woke journalist to do? Support the Ukraine war or cancel anyone associated with someone who wears a Nazi patch?


3 posted on 06/05/2023 7:45:26 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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To: navysealdad

Photos please.


4 posted on 06/05/2023 7:46:25 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: navysealdad

Lets Nazi This...sarc


5 posted on 06/05/2023 7:52:10 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Fido969
So the problem isn’t that they are Nazis, it’s that it is “fueling Russian propaganda”.

By the end of the 1930s the Ukrainians had suffered a Holocaust level genocide -- 5 to 11 million murdered (depending on whose estimate you believe) by an NKVD orchestrated artificial famine.

To many Ukrainians, the Nazis were liberating them from Communist mass murderers.

Much like Jews later saw the Communists as liberating them from Nazi mass murderers.

6 posted on 06/05/2023 7:52:37 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To many Ukrainians, the Nazis were liberating them from Communist mass murderers.

That was the Nazis big mistake. They should have just created a Ukrainian Puppet state, like they did for Slovakia, with some autonomy, most Ukrainians would have supported this over Stalin.

7 posted on 06/05/2023 7:54:29 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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8 posted on 06/05/2023 7:55:27 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Wait until they find out gay marriage is banned in Ukraine.


9 posted on 06/05/2023 7:55:56 AM PDT by MTBobcat (The “rank-and-file” are as corrupted as their leadership.)
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To: jerod

Hush, Canadian.


10 posted on 06/05/2023 7:56:21 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: navysealdad

“But these are good nazis!
Not at all like the evil RuZZian nazis!
Our nazis are stunning and brave.”

- Zeeper dude


11 posted on 06/05/2023 7:56:39 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Hi Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: Angelino97

That is a more realistic view of things.

Peter Hitchens posted a link on Twitter last week noting the monuments to Nazi collaboration in Ukraine and other places in Eastern Europe Latvians, Lithuanians and Estonians among others saw Nazis as liberators but they ended up helping in evil deeds perpetrated by the Nazis...

https://twitter.com/ClarkeMicah/status/1663245361291358208


12 posted on 06/05/2023 7:56:52 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: MTBobcat

Not for long.


13 posted on 06/05/2023 7:57:46 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: navysealdad

Wasn’t the NY slimes associated with the nazis back in the day?


14 posted on 06/05/2023 7:58:20 AM PDT by Smellin Salt
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To: JonPreston

So. No photos. Hmm!


15 posted on 06/05/2023 8:01:18 AM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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The counter-offensive... pic.twitter.com/7LpWaFsKIF— Trollstoy (@Trollstoy88) June 5, 2023


16 posted on 06/05/2023 8:02:16 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Nextrush
Communists inflicted brutality upon them. Those who suffer brutality often become brutal themselves. Raise a dog so it knows nothing but pain and violence, and it will respond in kind.
17 posted on 06/05/2023 8:03:17 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: navysealdad

I pray that the needed De-Nazification of former Ukraine continues until it is achieved.


18 posted on 06/05/2023 8:03:29 AM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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Yes and Jews were associated with the Soviets or commies whatever

And uke civilians butchered them at levels that appalled even Nazi units at first so much they recorded it so they wouldn’t be blamed and much was done by hand like Rwanda style

This friction and violence goes back a ways there probably to before Middle Ages with these groups

And apparently still around

The you’ve got the catholic orthodox thing and the orthodox orthodox thing

Ukraine and Eastern Europe in general is pretty bloody damn place honestly

The irony or silliness I guess is our media has a meltdown if some 20dummies march around carrying historical flags yet support a nation which has a large intimidating neo Nazi military bloc(s)

Funded and managed by oligarchs who were instrumental in 2014 maiden and installing Zekensky candidacy

And who are nearly all including the leading one Jewish themselves

This is a nuts nation


19 posted on 06/05/2023 8:04:30 AM PDT by wardaddy (Technology is not by default an improvement )
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To: navysealdad

“Troops’ use of patches bearing Nazi emblems risks fueling Russian propaganda and spreading imagery that the West has spent a half-century trying to eliminate.”

Not trying very hard, considering the billions sent to them, and that was BEFORE this war even started.


20 posted on 06/05/2023 8:08:41 AM PDT by BobL
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