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“July 4th is a painful reminder of the aloha aina warriors who are no longer with us, and a disgrace to our ancestors and the descendants of Hawaiian nationals who fought to resist american occupation,” John Garcia, minister of foreign affairs and second vice president for the independently formed government Nation of Hawaii, told SFGATE in an email.


Heck of an article for the Fourth of July

1 posted on 07/04/2023 9:29:52 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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John Garcia doesn’t sound like a Hawaiian name


2 posted on 07/04/2023 9:32:28 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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And still an overwhelming percentage of Native Hawaiian’s voted for Statehood, so there’s that.


3 posted on 07/04/2023 9:33:55 AM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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Sure, NOW they want independence. When it was be a state, or be gobbled up by Japan, or China or whoever... they chose being a state.

The Hawaiians are entirely too butthurt, just like liberals all over the use. To hell with them.


4 posted on 07/04/2023 9:37:00 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's going to take real, serious, hard times to wake the American public.)
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I agree. Hawaii never should have been a state, they should be independent.


5 posted on 07/04/2023 9:37:59 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Hawaiians may be the most stupid people on the planet..... ie sen horono


6 posted on 07/04/2023 9:38:54 AM PDT by changeitback440
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Note to Christine Hitt:

If it wasn’t the U. S. Christine it would have been Japan.

Run that around your brain bone Christine.

5.56mm


7 posted on 07/04/2023 9:39:59 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho have got to go)
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Like China would give them their independence.

Idiots.


8 posted on 07/04/2023 9:40:00 AM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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Big power geopolitics did not change with the advent of western democracies. No doubt if not ever made part of the United States Hawaii could easily have been made a colony of any great Asian power at any time. Hawii has the unfortunate circumstance of being rather small and could never be “idendent” for long once the world became more interconnected.


13 posted on 07/04/2023 9:41:52 AM PDT by Wuli
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” Later, July 4, 1960, was chosen as the day the 50th star was added to the U.S. flag.”


Don’t know how long it’s been the law, but stars are only added to the flag on July 4. That’s why we had one year with a 49-star flag—Hawaii got statehood after July 4, 1959.

Does the Bishop Museum still display the pottery decorated with human teeth as ‘a painful reminder of the aloha aina warriors who are no longer with us’?


15 posted on 07/04/2023 9:44:58 AM PDT by hanamizu
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I’m good with 49 States. That means fewer wackos in the Congress and Senate.


17 posted on 07/04/2023 9:46:02 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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According to polls, Native Hawaiians want independence provided, of course, that U.S. continues to protect them from invasion and continues to send them money.

But, polls of all Hawaiians indicate no. We’re happy being part of U.S.

https://www.grassrootinstitute.org/2014/06/star-advertiser-poll-indicates-a-lack-of-enthusiasm-for-a-native-hawaiian-nation/

The people of Hawaii are mostly Asian or European or a mix. Less than 10 percent of Hawaii are Native Hawaiians.


28 posted on 07/04/2023 9:54:29 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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Dump Hawaii and make Mexico the 50th state.


29 posted on 07/04/2023 9:56:03 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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So the locals can sell it to the Chinese?


32 posted on 07/04/2023 9:57:41 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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Fine with me, the Dem marxists lose 2 Senate Seats.


36 posted on 07/04/2023 10:00:36 AM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AND GLOBALISM! there is no coexistence wi)
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We Southerners know how they feel.


37 posted on 07/04/2023 10:02:01 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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So why don’t you just go back to being a useless Pacific island chain that never amounted to anything worthwhile? Bye bye!


38 posted on 07/04/2023 10:02:42 AM PDT by I want the USA back (A man is not a woman. A woman is not a man. There is no in-between or undefined middle. Cat = cat.)
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I have no personal experience with Hawaii but from what I have read and heard, its very expensive, with distrustful people who don't like westerners and I would wish them their damn independence and stop takin our tax money....

close their borders....

and goodbye to tourism....

39 posted on 07/04/2023 10:03:16 AM PDT by cherry
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All Hawaiians?


42 posted on 07/04/2023 10:08:55 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Going into debt is like taking the canoe out WITH the tide and coming back AGAINST the tide!)
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Could have been worse. Hawaii could have been taken over by Japan.
50 posted on 07/04/2023 10:15:23 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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bfl


52 posted on 07/04/2023 10:16:20 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins.)
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