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Ban On Recording Without Consent Is Unconstitutional, US Court Rules
Epoch Times ^ | 07/05/2023 | Zachary Steiber

Posted on 07/05/2023 10:18:38 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

An Oregon law that forbids recording in public without consent runs afoul of the U.S. Constitution’s First Amendment, a U.S. court has ruled.


James O'Keefe, founder Project Veritas, at the Values Voter Summit in Washington on Oct. 12, 2019. (Samira Bouaou/The Epoch Times)

Oregon law 165.540, first enacted in 1955 and subsequently broadened to bar secret recording of conversations, is unconstitutional, Judge Sandra Ikuta, a George W. Bush appointee writing for the majority in the 2–1 ruling, said.

Exceptions to the prohibition include recording at public meetings, such as city council hearings; while a felony that endangers human life is being committed; and by law enforcement officers while performing their jobs.

The law is content-based because certain groups, such as the law enforcement officers, are treated different than others, Ms. Ikuta said. That means it has to be narrowly tailored for a compelling governmental interest, or survive a test known as strict scrutiny.

Oregon does not have a compelling interest in protecting people’s privacy in public places, the majority ruled. Even if it did, the law is not tailored enough because Oregon has other laws that cover privacy concerns, such as a law allowing tort lawsuits by people who are recorded without consent.

The law “burdens more protected speech than is necessary to achieve its stated interest,” the judge wrote.

The judge also said that the law regulates speech to protect people’s privacy but that many people in public places don’t seek privacy. Instead of acknowledging that point, the law treats all speech in public the same.

When people talk in public places, the privacy of other individuals is only implicated if the speech is unwanted but the law does not incorporate that point, the majority said. They used the example of protesters who may want their conversations recorded in the hopes it will lead to publicity for their cause.

Ms. Ikuta was joined by Circuit Judge Carlos Bea, another George W. Bush appointee.

Judge Morgan Christen, an Obama appointee, wrote in a dissent that the law should be upheld because Oregon “has a significant interest in preventing the secret recording of private conversations even when those conversations occur in public or semi-public locations.”

Ms. Christen also said the law is narrowly tailored to serve that interest.

Oregon is one of only five states that have laws in places banning recording in public places without consent. The others are Alaska, Kentucky, Massachusetts, and Montana.

Many other states explicitly allow recording in public without consent while five states have no laws in place regarding the matter.

Earlier Ruling

The new ruling overturns a previous decision by a lower court.

The journalism group Project Veritas challenged the law in 2020, arguing it could result in undercover reporters being criminally charged. People have refused to talk in the past when being told they were being recorded, the group said, meaning the law prevented reporters from exercising their First Amendment rights.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 07/05/2023 10:18:38 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Anyone see this affecting recording laws in other states yet?


2 posted on 07/05/2023 10:20:11 PM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Leave it to an ObamaStooge to dissent.


3 posted on 07/05/2023 10:27:48 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Reno89519
Anyone see this affecting recording laws in other states yet?

Since it is a district court ruling, it is only binding in courts in that district. It would take either other district courts to rule that way or a SCOTUS ruling for it to be binding in other districts

4 posted on 07/05/2023 10:28:21 PM PDT by TheCipher ( RINO politicians in DC are the only reptiles in the world with no backbone)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wait till the schoolkids learn about this.


5 posted on 07/05/2023 10:33:28 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: TheCipher

This is 9th circuit so should void similar laws in Hawaii, California, Nevada, Arizona, Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Washington, Quam, and Northern Mariana Islands. I just haven’t seen any discussion on this yet.


6 posted on 07/05/2023 10:35:30 PM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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To: kiryandil

Isn’t it strange how liberals feel you have no right to privacy when it concerns government intrusion, yet a total right to privacy when it comes to others filming you in public?


7 posted on 07/05/2023 10:36:52 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: LukeL
Yes, very strange.

I believe that the ObamaStooge could contort himself into the opposite position if a political ally was making a public recording that would damage a Republican or a conservative.

8 posted on 07/05/2023 10:40:03 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

Don’t you mean Sotoreo? The pole smokah?


9 posted on 07/05/2023 10:40:56 PM PDT by mythenjoseph (Positive outlook)
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To: mythenjoseph

Yes, Bathhouse Barry Soetoro.


10 posted on 07/05/2023 10:42:30 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Reno89519

The government records everything without my consent so why can’t I?
The irs sends me a tax bill if I make a mistake and owe them, but they never catch it if they owe me...


11 posted on 07/05/2023 10:58:36 PM PDT by Pocketdoor
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To: Reno89519

And how long were these laws on the books and how many people had their lives ruined because of these laws?

We have criminal government, folks.


12 posted on 07/06/2023 1:44:45 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bfl


13 posted on 07/06/2023 2:45:49 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them)
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To: SeekAndFind
The law is contentcontext-based because certain groups, such as the law enforcement officers, are treated different than others, Ms. Ikuta said. That means it has to be narrowly tailored for a compelling governmental interest, or survive a test known as strict scrutiny.

The recorded utterances (e.g.: "I'd like a ham-and-cheese sandwich, please," "My, you look pretty!", or "I'm going to beat your ass!") might be IDENTICAL.

Rather, it's the context that counts.

Regards,

14 posted on 07/06/2023 3:27:03 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Virginia has a “one-side” consent law that works well. Recording conversations is legal if at least one person in the conversation knows it’s being recorded. That keeps people from bugging phones or houses without letting someone else know.

Unless you’re a cop with a warrant.


15 posted on 07/06/2023 6:11:30 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: VanShuyten

That’s Texas law, as well.


16 posted on 07/06/2023 1:13:32 PM PDT by ExTxMarine
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