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Two Texas teachers fired after attending drag show
KSAT ^ | 07-26-2023

Posted on 07/27/2023 10:22:11 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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To: Jess Kitting
“I will act in a godly and moral fashion at work, on Facebook and in my community.”

That's pretty vague. What exactly did the teachers do, and were children involved?

 

Nothing vague about this. The article says she posted photos and videos. Obviously online.

Freedom of association. I don't think companies can dictate what employees do off site on their own time.

They can especially if the employee agrees to those dictates.

41 posted on 07/27/2023 11:06:48 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Tagline for sale.)
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To: Sir_Humphrey

Public schools can and have dismissed people for posting conservative memes. Or even for sharing their views privately.
Maris sounds like a clueless person. Probably thinks she is hip or adventurously discovering the vast world of humanness and is now a fascinating person.
Put her in a sewage pipe. She will learn much more about humanness.
P.S....once they posted activity this online(publicly) it was no longer on their own time.


42 posted on 07/27/2023 11:09:14 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

*Time for you to grow up and learn a few thing. Today, thanks to me you have learned one thing at least. I doubt it will stick because... you are after all you.*
Oh come on! You’ve taught me that forgiveness is not in your bible-small ‘b’.

*We had a High School teacher was was denied a contract extension because she married a divorced man. This was late 70’s.*
*Your school sounded pretty messed up*

That was the 70’s. People evolve. This Baptist school hasn’t.

*In this case, the cure is worse than the disease*
Bingo!


43 posted on 07/27/2023 11:09:26 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (e allowed )
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To: Getready

I agree. Perhaps this was not the first time these teachers crossed the line.

I would argue that if attending a drag show was their first and only offence in 19 years, then firing them would have been overkill.

But I suspect there have been previous incidents which the school cannot disclose.


44 posted on 07/27/2023 11:12:40 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Tagline for sale.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“These two showed a lack of judgment and good sense.”

Hey, I went to a couple of drag shows in San Francisco years ago. Finnochios I think. Maybe still there.

My point is that none of us that went were remotely interested or approving of their lifestyle. We didn’t think about that.


45 posted on 07/27/2023 11:17:29 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Round Earther

If they watched an R-rated movie with graphic murder, rape, torture, gore, and nudity. Yes. If they went to a burlesque show glorifying adultery, yes If M.A.S.H portrayed Klinger as a paragon of virtue who taught Korean boys how to dress like an American woman and was celebrated...yes.

Sorry to bust the fantasy that one can unsee or unremember bad things.


46 posted on 07/27/2023 11:18:47 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Maris said she had no idea she was breaking that clause in the manual by attending a drag show.

In the branch of Christianity I follow, a drag show is definitely considered "ungodly".

47 posted on 07/27/2023 11:25:23 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Pontiac

Jesus would have gone, but he wouldn’t have posted to Facebook, and it wouldn’t have been for “entertainment.”


48 posted on 07/27/2023 11:26:00 AM PDT by pops88 ( Helping usher the glory of God into Las Vegas)
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To: cymbeline

Did you go out of your way to see the show? Did you pay for anything to see or procure at the show? Did you tell anybody about it before you posted it here? Could be tacit acceptance or approval. Think about it.


49 posted on 07/27/2023 11:27:09 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I credit Matt Walsh.
So simple, but absolutely spot on


50 posted on 07/27/2023 11:27:34 AM PDT by j.havenfarm (22 years on Free Republic, 12/10/22! more then 6500 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
People evolve.

The Truth doesn't.

Faggotry is always ungodly.

51 posted on 07/27/2023 11:34:56 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Jess Kitting
“ The rule as written is unclear, unenforceable, and probably unconstitutional.”

Not for a private Christian school.

52 posted on 07/27/2023 11:46:19 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Responsibility2nd
“I will act in a godly and moral fashion at work, on Facebook and in my community.”

Lawyers will have a heyday with this.

Where is "godly and moral fashion" defined? That is up to interpretation.

The contract says "Facebook." What if they posted on Instagram, Twitter . . . ?

"In my community." They were in Houston. Easy to say they were outside of their "community."

53 posted on 07/27/2023 11:58:00 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: Jess Kitting

Wow. A lawsuit waiting to happen. The rule as written is unclear, unenforceable, and probably unconstitutional.


I am not a lawyer, but I think you are wrong. Even public school teachers in most parts of the country would find their jobs in jeopardy if they publicized their attendance at perfectly legal strip joints although a tenured public school teacher in many states would be able to insist on certain procedures to be followed.

But teachers at a church-sponsored school? I have no idea what, if any contract the teachers have. I believe the Constitution is pretty silent on the subject of employment rights, although there are plenty of civil rights laws that do cover the subject. But the church could argue that their First Amendment rights would trump employment rights laws.


54 posted on 07/27/2023 12:07:17 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Jess Kitting

Bullcrap. They are teachers at a Christian School. If they went to a homo stage show, got photos made with the perverts, and put it on social media, that makes them unfit for their job at a Christian school.

As for watching MASH, Klinger was trying to run a scam, trying to prove he was insane so he would get removed from the war zone.

But nice try. And yeah, companies can indeed dictate what you do on your own time if it works against the company. It wasn’t long ago that a coke driver would get fired if he was seen drinking a pepsi. If you are an airline employee and you spend your off time with a group convincing people that airline has shoddy maintenance, you’ll be fired.

They are teachers at a Christian school, cavorting with perverts.


55 posted on 07/27/2023 12:17:14 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Maris said she had no idea she was breaking that clause in the manual by attending a drag show.

Regards,

56 posted on 07/27/2023 12:21:54 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: cymbeline
My point is that none of us that went were remotely interested or approving of their lifestyle.

Then why did you go to that show?!

Or were you completely oblivious?

Regards,

57 posted on 07/27/2023 12:24:05 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Getready

“Did you go out of your way to see the show?”
We drove from Palo Alto to San Francisco.

“Did you pay for anything to see or procure at the show?”
We paid to see the show.

“Did you tell anybody about it before you posted it here?”
Absolutely. Just like I occasionally tell people about a movie I saw.

“Could be tacit acceptance or approval.”
Back then Finnochios was just an entertainment place. No baggage.


58 posted on 07/27/2023 12:24:47 PM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Jess Kitting

The 2020 “ 7-2 decision on the combined Our Lady of Guadalupe School v. Morrissey-Berru and St. James School v. Biel cases carry significant consequences for a legal doctrine known as ministerial exception. Former teachers sued the two Catholic schools in Southern California after losing their jobs, launching a fresh test of a 2012 high court decision and new tension between workers rights and church authority.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/08/supreme-court-teachers-religious-schools-352418

The Supreme Court just ruled on this three years ago, and reaffirmed a 2012 decision. Church schools can fire teachers who violate the religious positions and rules of the school.


59 posted on 07/27/2023 12:25:16 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Responsibility2nd

their first and only offence in 19 years, then firing them would have been overkill.

Not really. Teachers, hanging out with pervert child molesters. Good call.


60 posted on 07/27/2023 12:27:19 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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