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Destroyer of Worlds: History and Christopher Nolan's Oppenheimer
Steyn Online ^ | 29 July 2023 | Rick McGinnis

Posted on 07/30/2023 5:16:12 AM PDT by Rummyfan

The first glimpse I ever had of Robert Oppenheimer was in an episode of the landmark British television documentary series The World at War. (Soon to be the topic of this column.) It was in Episode 24 ("The Bomb"), which tells the story of the American nuclear program from its inception to the dropping of atomic bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Oppenheimer does not play a huge part until they get to the first test of the "Gadget", on July 16, 1945 at the White Sands Proving Grounds, roughly midway between Albuquerque and El Paso. He appears, his face filling the screen, in footage from a 1965 NBC documentary called The Decision to Drop the Bomb.

It's a strange face, made stranger by the cameraman's decision to frame him in an unforgiving close-up that makes his long, pale face, with its big, wide-set eyes and prominent ears, appear like a goblin or an alien. It would have made an impression on me even if I didn't hear his voice, which sounded halting and haunted.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fakehistory; glorifyingtreason; nolan; oppenheimer; sovietagent; traitor

J. Robert Oppenheimer

1 posted on 07/30/2023 5:16:12 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan
Me and a friend went to see the flick this week.. It's a pretty good movie with lots of history.. That, in it self, is rare nowadays...
2 posted on 07/30/2023 5:26:44 AM PDT by unread ("It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required." W. Churchill.)
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To: Rummyfan

I enjoyed the movie. But it is structured oddly, with various plotlines and timelines interwoven so it can be difficult to remember things like “when did these guys first meet?” because the answer can be “very early”(in the film) and also “very late” (in the real world). Lots of personalities to keep track of. I plan to see it again, because there was a lot to take in (and I’m pretty familiar with the topic).

It should be noted that the communist sympathies are never portrayed as a bad thing, spies are talked about but actual spies are downplayed, and the general tone is that moral people are Leftists and Leftists are moral people.

But, at the same time, the vile nature of government bureaucrats, the in-fighting, and vindictiveness of people in power is made clear. Government is not your friend. I think it is an unintended message, but if you read between the lines (so to speak) you can see the early stirring of the Deep State.


3 posted on 07/30/2023 5:30:18 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not a government. It's a criminal enterprise. Fear it, but do not respect it.)
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To: unread

You might try reading Bill O’Reilly’s “Killing the Rising Sun”. It’s an excellent writing on the subject.


4 posted on 07/30/2023 5:50:52 AM PDT by GoldenPup ( Joe Biden Told During The State Of The Union Address)
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To: Rummyfan

I haven’t seen the movie, and I know this woke crap for Academy Awards qualification doesn’t kick in until 2024, but I’d be curious to know how a movie like “Openhemimer” qualifies in terms of the Academy’s moronic ‘diversity and inclusion’ standards.


5 posted on 07/30/2023 6:21:28 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: GoldenPup
"You might try reading Bill O’Reilly’s “Killing the Rising Sun”. It's an excellent writing on the subject."

Oh man.! I'm already so far behind on my reading, I may never catch up.!

My son gives me books, my neighbor gives books, the preacher gives me books, and I'm having a problems with my eyes.. I'm hoping it's cataracts. My wife had that and it was an easy fix.

6 posted on 07/30/2023 6:28:23 AM PDT by unread ("It's not enough that we do our best; sometimes we have to do what's required." W. Churchill.)
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To: unread

Hollywood leftist movie studios teaching America’s children twisted history lessons, while the US DOE and your local school board are teaching your sons how to be daughters. What could possibly go wrong.


7 posted on 07/30/2023 6:30:37 AM PDT by 4Runner
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To: 4Runner
What could possibly go wrong.

It's already gone wrong. Visit any metropolitan city in the US. Drug addiction out of control. Open prostitution. Black areas overrun with crime. Add to all that the mental illness of homosexuality and trans insanity.

Then read "The Rise And Fall Of The Roman Empire." I'm stunned that with all that's going on, Americans are oblivious to where we're headed. It's 1+1=2 simple.

We need a National Revival through Christ. But Americans are so reprobate and satan so prominent in every facet of our culture, I can't see it happening. But, that's just me.

8 posted on 07/30/2023 6:42:32 AM PDT by LouAvul (Daniel 4:17: "..the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever He will.." )
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To: Rummyfan
One sided story tilted heavily in favor of Oppenheimer who is named in the Venona Project btw. Lewis Strauss was a conservative Repub and ticked off a lot of dems who were denied federal funds for specific contracts. In the 1958 election, the Senate dems expanded their control and led by LBJ went after Strauss (Who was recessed) and denied his appointmet in 1959. That movie needed a lot of Paul Harvey to flesh the context out.
9 posted on 07/30/2023 6:43:09 AM PDT by rollo tomasi
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To: ClearCase_guy

If you read American Prometheus, you get the same factual information in a more conventional chronology. Nolan’s time shifts allow for the Trinity test to be the climax of the movie.


10 posted on 07/30/2023 6:44:08 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (I don’t see why they would)
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To: Lisbon1940

And just let him be Christopher Nolan. He’s really not into linear story telling.


11 posted on 07/30/2023 6:49:02 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Rummyfan

Years ago I saw a University production of “In the Matter of J. Robert Oppenheimer..” and it was a very powerful play.. His life was certainly almost as complex as “The Bomb..”


12 posted on 07/30/2023 6:57:13 AM PDT by Shady (The Force of Liberty must prevail for the sake of our Children and Grandchildren...)
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To: ClearCase_guy; Stosh

Look at the list of Hollywood shills appearing at the front of the film.

The cameo appearances of Hollywood egos appears in the film to fit the schedule of those egos.

When I moved to Chicago from Boeing’s Seattle I learned that the Story was a basement below the U of Chicago and not an airplane. Now we learn the story is a mid-level bureaucrat.

It’s like some other stories currently in the news. Story tellers tell the part that is important to them.


13 posted on 07/30/2023 7:33:37 AM PDT by spintreebob (ki .h g)
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To: Rummyfan

I don’t know Jean Tatlock’s story. Steyn writes that she died by suicide, under suspicious circumstances, in 1944. Details, anyone? And what was suspicious about the circumstances? How long did her affair with Oppenheimer last? Did it predate the Manhattan Project? Had Oppenheimer broken it off before her suicide? She was a card carrying communist, Oppenheimer was an unrepentant fellow traveler who lied about his communist connections to the FBI, and the Manhattan Project was target #1 for Soviet intelligence. Suspicious circumstances might mean almost anything.


14 posted on 07/30/2023 9:04:42 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: Rummyfan

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15 posted on 07/30/2023 9:36:47 AM PDT by sauropod (Sun Tzu: “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting”)
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To: LouAvul

most universities stopped requiring Gibbon’s Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire in the 1960s....


16 posted on 07/30/2023 9:45:48 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: Rummyfan

I have read enough about Oppenheimer to neither respect nor like what he was (he was a leftie). I spent some time in the mid 1970’s studying details of WWII and the Manhattan Project. That was after the Freedom of Information act made it legal to write about.

Years ago I had a discussion of his famous phrase from the from The Bhagavad Gita (in Sanskrit), “Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.”

In that conversation with a Hindi speaking Indian told me that Oppenheimer totally misinterpreted the passage.

Here is a recent article saying that.


Oppenheimer Features Verse From The Bhagavad Gita; Here’s What It Means (Jul 24, 2023)

https://www.republicworld.com/entertainment-news/hollywood-news/oppenheimer-features-verse-from-the-bhagavad-gita-heres-what-it-means-articleshow.html


17 posted on 07/30/2023 10:19:01 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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Op Ed by Barton Bernstein, a Professor of History at Stanford

Opinion: Nolan’s ‘Oppenheimer’ marred by 5 historical inaccuracies

https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/07/29/opinion-nolans-oppenheimer-marred-by-5-historical-inaccuracies/amp/


18 posted on 08/06/2023 9:28:12 PM PDT by Texan4Life
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The first 15 minutes with Edward Teller are revealing...

Firing Line with William F. Buckley Jr.: Better a Shield than a Sword, 1987

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erHZBDn0v2M


19 posted on 08/06/2023 11:58:27 PM PDT by Texan4Life
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