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Idalia exposes yet another problem with EVs
Hotair ^ | 9/2/23 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 09/02/2023 1:44:47 PM PDT by CFW

Imagine this disturbing scenario for a moment. You live in Florida and received plenty of dire warnings about the approach of Hurricane Idalia. But your house is a little way uphill and the storm surge wasn’t quite as bad as some had predicted. You manage to get by with only some minor flooding at your place and once they get the power back on you should be able to start cleaning up. But two days after the storm, you walk outside only to find your car going up in a massive fireball. Just what you needed, right? But what went wrong? How did this happen? Well, you decided to listen to Joe Biden and bought yourself one of those fancy new electric vehicles. And it turns out that EVs and salt water don’t get along. In fact, that combination can cause the EV’s batteries to explode into flames. (The Weather Channel).

Some electric vehicles in Florida are bursting into flames after coming into contact with saltwater. Residual saltwater particles left behind on flooded batteries and battery components can conduct electricity, resulting in short circuits and eventual fires. Safety officials are urging EV owners with vehicles that flooded to take action now as fires can ignite weeks after flooding.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: automotive; ev; evbatteryfire; evfire; fire; florida; hurricanes; idalia; saltwater; saltwaterflames; water
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Too many people still think that EVs are being encouraged in order to "save the environment". No. EV's are being encouraged (and soon to be mandated) so that YOUR travel can be restricted to your "15-minute city". Meanwhile, those "in charge" will be free to travel when and wherever they wish. All without the "hoi-poi" peons getting in their way.

For those in charge will let you know that "day and night we are watching over your welfare. It is for your sake that we drink that milk and eat those apples." You can add a sentence that says "we also have to travel in gas-powered vehicles and private planes to instruct the people as to how to save the environment" ( see Al Gore, John Kerry).

1 posted on 09/02/2023 1:44:47 PM PDT by CFW
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EV’s are being encouraged (and soon to be mandated) so that YOUR travel can be restricted .... within that 15-minute city is going to be their ability to shut your power off whenever they want or restrict your ability to charge your EV at their convenience.


Some electric vehicles in Florida are bursting into flames after coming into contact with saltwater.

The saltwater isn’t just from flooding. Live anywhere near the coast and that stuff just eats away at anything and everything it touches. Best examples are vehicles that were purchased and driven in the SW, dry climates, body and frames are in perfect condition after decades of use. Then see what happens with cars and trucks along the coastal areas and in northern parts of the country where they treat the wintery roads with salt. It destroys vehicles.

Eventually that saltwater mist creeps it’s way in and, VOILA, a big ol’ POS on fire.


2 posted on 09/02/2023 1:52:53 PM PDT by qaz123
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"EV's are being encouraged (and soon to be mandated) so that YOUR travel can be restricted to your '15-minute city'"

And THAT is only one stepping stone on their path to full communism -- the abolition and control of all domestic travel and a permanent ban on all private automobiles for the hoi polloi.

I worked in China for seven months late 1976 to late spring 1977 and saw what a society without any private automobiles looked like. It wasn't pretty. I worked in a fertilizer plant located at the confluence of two major rivers and three provinces. You could not leave the Yunnan province to go to either of the other two without an internal passport.

3 posted on 09/02/2023 1:55:01 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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EVs are part of the Agenda 21 corridor system. Limited range and freedom. Can’t bring extra charge with you like extra gas cans. Have to be charged in metro hubs.


4 posted on 09/02/2023 2:04:15 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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You bought a cherrybomb!


5 posted on 09/02/2023 2:05:41 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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I live very close to the ocean in Jupiter and the salt air destroys everything it comes in contact with. Galvanized fence posts last about 5 years before they’re rusted through.


6 posted on 09/02/2023 2:13:08 PM PDT by FLNittany (Autotune is jealous of Karen Carpenter)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“I worked in China for seven months late 1976 to late spring 1977 and saw what a society without any private automobiles looked like. It wasn’t pretty. I worked in a fertilizer plant located at the confluence of two major rivers and three provinces. You could not leave the Yunnan province to go to either of the other two without an internal passport.”


Several years ago, my sister and her family hosted a teen-aged exchange student from China. The student was amazed that they could go to a movie without letting the “leader” in their neighborhood know their destination and get permission. She was flabbergasted at the amount and variety of food you could buy at the grocery store. And she was shocked that my niece and nephew didn’t have school homework to do on over the weekend. It took several weeks before she wasn’t “spooked” when going out shopping as she expected someone from the “authorities” to approach her and ask what she was doing and why. She cried when she had to return to China. My sister kept up with her for several years by letters but I think they have now lost touch.


7 posted on 09/02/2023 2:18:59 PM PDT by CFW (I will not comply!)
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My sister kept up with her for several years by letters but I think they have now lost touch.

Probably very good for the exchange student's social credit score and chances for a longer life.

8 posted on 09/02/2023 2:25:28 PM PDT by null and void (It's 10 o'clock, does the president know where he is?)
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EPA mandates for carbon capture/green hydrogen are going to send the cost of electricity soaring.


9 posted on 09/02/2023 2:25:45 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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Last week I was hiking around Tubbs Hill in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho. There are spots where you can jump off the rocks into the lake — it’s really fun on a hot summer day. I met a couple from Ohio on a western states tour. The wife asked me “Are they allowed to do that?”

LOL. What a mentality. I told her Idaho is about the most free state in the country and people largely do what they want without restrictions (and not breaking the law). She was flabbergasted that there weren’t railings, signs about falling, and “No jumping” signs all over.

Even some people in the USA have a hard time with freedom!


10 posted on 09/02/2023 2:36:01 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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It’s the nature of salt isn’t it?

Even when they spray the undercarriage of vehicles with whatever they use these days, the salt eventually gets it unless you consistently get it redone.


11 posted on 09/02/2023 2:49:18 PM PDT by qaz123
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This is what the military does...


12 posted on 09/02/2023 3:01:20 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Faux News: "We distort, you deride")
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

” There are spots where you can jump off the rocks into the lake — it’s really fun on a hot summer day.”


We used to have places such as that in our county. Swimming holes in old granite quarries where the water was crystal clear and no one complained if you trespassed on the property. Then, the college students in a nearby county discovered the spot. The would come in, get high or drunk, and a several drowned over the space of a few years. The county then required the property owners to fence in the swimming holes and put up “no trespassing” signs. The locals were then deprived of the places they had frequented for decades. All because of the stupidity and failure to follow basic safety rules by out-of-towners. Don’t jump into water you don’t know the depth of or what is beneath the surface. The locals knew every rock and stump in those holes, but college students didn’t. The left ruins everything!


13 posted on 09/02/2023 3:11:13 PM PDT by CFW (I will not comply!)
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I’m curious to know how often they have to do that. I would think that any air bases, naval air stations along the coast and carriers, that process would have to be done on a very regular basis.

Funny. I bartended in college. Bar had a very small dance floor and the owner wanted to paint it. Purchased some ‘super duper’ paint that they used on Navy ships, that was supposed to be impervious to everything. Floor was painted. Dried.

First night, with a bunch of drunk college kids spilling booze all over the floor, it looked like gray mud. The paint was everywhere. Girls were calling up and ripping into the owner because their shoots and boots were ruined.


14 posted on 09/02/2023 3:11:55 PM PDT by qaz123
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There also has been an instance of the occupant (IIRC the driver was alone) drowning because he pulled a Teddie Kennedy and drove off a bridge and into a river.

He couldn’t get out because the door locks were shorted out in the closed position.


15 posted on 09/02/2023 3:12:13 PM PDT by threefinger
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Nice thing about EVs is the increased difficulty of fraudulently selling a flood damaged car. They self-destruct before they can be cleaned up.


16 posted on 09/02/2023 3:14:37 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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And it turns out that EVs and salt water don’t get along. In fact, that combination can cause the EV’s batteries to explode into flames.

That's what I said on the thread about the car-carrier ship that caught on fire back in August.


Salt water is a massive conductor of electricity.

Is transporting 500 electric vehicles with their lithium ion batteries at sea with the salty sea air and dampness and water everywhere really a good idea?

Is it possible that the salt water can cause a short somewhere in the EV that causes the battery to overheat until it catches on fire?


-PJ
17 posted on 09/02/2023 3:18:39 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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“Salt water is a massive conductor of electricity.”


I remember that from middle school science classes. The EV supporters apparently forgot that lesson. How are EVs to be functional for long periods of time near the coast or in areas in the north when salt is regularly applied on the roadways?

EV owners would never know when sufficient salt had built up on the vehicle’s batteries to cause a fire. Since the entire lower part of the EV vehicle is pretty much part of the battery, you would have to daily wash off the entire vehicle.

[Your EV might look like a normal sedan or SUV from the outside. But underneath the floor of your car is an approximately 900-pound battery block containing materials that have been mined from the ground, sent around the world and put through complex chemical processing to fuel your ride from point A to point B]


18 posted on 09/02/2023 4:34:45 PM PDT by CFW (I will not comply!)
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Voltas pile and the frogs legs:

Decorated by Napoleon Bonaparte for the invention of the electric battery, the Italian Alessandro Volta (February 18, 1745 – March 5, 1827) did not always have the support of the international community. The physicist showed that it was not the bodies of animals but rather the contact of two metals that produced an electric current, a then-revolutionary idea that overturned previous theories and provoked bitter controversy among scientists of the era.


19 posted on 09/02/2023 4:53:03 PM PDT by spokeshave (Proud Boys, Angry Dads. Grumpy Grandads & Curmudgeons)
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My sister kept up with her for several years by letters but I think they have now lost touch.

Liberty is overrated. Too much liberty has brought us transgender surgeries and 24x7 cultural filth through streaming media. Morality is more important, and the Chinese are doing a better job protecting their children from pedo-trans-globohomo propaganda than we are.

20 posted on 09/02/2023 4:54:28 PM PDT by nwrep
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