Posted on 09/18/2023 12:00:17 PM PDT by Rattlesnake_Snook
Someone explain to Trump that Putin doesn’t want peace. He wants Ukraine as he clearly explained here
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181
maybe Russia would not be so aggressive if NATO wasn’t adding nations after the fall of the USSR despite the Bush administration promising that not a single nation would join NATO after the cold war ended?
maybe?
The construction of "heroic angels" and "diabolic scum" is indeed the stuff of comic books. If there is to come an end to this conflict of attrition, it will have to come when "heroic angels" and "diabolic scum" can talk together. For that to happen, diplomatic speech need replace the hyperbole.
“he’ll support the fight too, because he believes in freedom and liberty too,”
How do you know? Maybe he is more intelligent and plays chess not American football.
What we have been witnessing is nothing but a football game. And a poor one at that. No one is going to even win this game. Both sides have terrible playbooks.
The telling thing is that nobody from our side seems to have any interest whatsoever in trying to negotiate a peaceful settlement to this crisis. Not even a half hearted attempt at stopping the steady escalation. It would be nice to see some effort to avoid a slide into Armageddon. Just saying.
Maybe.
Might have been a Neville Chamberlain moment.
Personally, I suspect Russia was gunning for it no matter what, and after the first war I can see Ukraine being a bit hesitant to trust them.
But Russia is on a demographic clock. Perhaps giving Moscow a little more room would have bought enough time the Russians aged out of military action.
One of those “What ifs?” that while entertaining, are moot at this point.
Trump's foreign policy gains him more votes than it loses. Most Americans don't want the U.S. involved.
Last week, a CNN poll showed that overall, 55% say Congress should not authorize additional funding to support Ukraine vs. 45% who say Congress should authorize such funding. And 51% say that the US has already done enough to help Ukraine while 48% say it should do more.
When asked specifically about types of assistance the US could provide to Ukraine, there is broader support for help with intelligence gathering (63%) and military training (53%) than for providing weapons (43%), alongside very slim backing for US military forces to participate in combat operations (17%).
Republicans broadly say that Congress should not authorize new funding (71%) and that the US has done enough to assist Ukraine (59%). Among Democrats, most say the opposite, 62% favor additional funding and 61% say that the US should do more.
Within both parties, there are splits by ideology. On providing additional funding, liberal Democrats are far and away the most supportive, 74% back it compared with 51% of moderate or conservative Democrats. Among Republicans, about three-quarters of conservatives oppose new funding (76%) compared with 61% of moderate or liberal Republicans.
Independents mostly say the US has done enough to help Ukraine (56%) and that they oppose additional funding (55%).
These headlines are hilarious. I think the Trump support comes from people to LISTEN to him and the Trump hate comes from people who “read what he said”
The Ukraine was screwed as soon as Victoria Nuland overthrew their government . It was only a matter of time
Are YOU that dumb?
For what we spent they could have bought the whole country.
I still think we have not heard the real story. That Biden is sending money to Ukraine to avoid Russia exposing Biden’s money laundering operations. (Also Pelosi, Romney, etc.)
Maybe NATO would not be adding nations if Russia weren’t invading and annexing territory from its neighbors… such as Georgia (2008), Ukraine/ Crimea (2014)…
Maybe ?
I see you’ve finally accepted Col MacGregor’s foreign policy.
You seem to be appeasing Trudeau quite happily …and he is one of the most arrogant underrated totalitarian wannabes of our time
Diplomacy ALWAYS involves appeasement…even if the conditions are “ OK stop killing us and we’ll submit to terms”…which is where Ukraine is going to end up
if both sides are not appeased, you get a Versailles Treaty and simply a lull in war, Russia is not going to accept a frozen conflict..imo. This is a generational problem they are investing a great deal of blood and treasure in resolving
I don’t recall a time when there was ‘peace” in Europe-I grew up in the Cold War era-there may not have been a shooting war going on then, but it certainly wasn’t “peace” as that is defined. Former KGB Putin will never, ever recognize the independence of ANY former USSR member country-he has said many times he would like to re-create that old USSR-maybe the rest of Europe wasn’t listening? Bad as he is, he isn’t stupid-and he won’t be in power forever-so why shouldn’t we just hide and watch for awhile?
In any case, it is a European problem, not ours unless he attacks a NATO ally-which Ukraine is not. Biden has spent all of OUR money making Zelenski rich and supporting the military industrial complex while collecting his 10%-bastante...
There was the Minsk agreement in which the EU side said last year our side had no intention of keeping as it was only a tool to buy time. That is called dishonesty in my book. Then a handful of other negotiations seeking relief from the bitter fighting in the Donetsk and Luhansk areas which had been going on since 2014. That was the Obama administration’s orchestrated revolution. Those negotiations continued until just before the Russian incursion of 2022.
In other words there were plenty of opportunities to resolve the conflict. But they didn’t have our champion. If Donald Trump had been part of any of these negotiations there is no doubt in my mind there would be no war and this country would be much better off.
Only about 25% of NATO countries meet their spending commitments. Now that’s dedication to freedom! LOL
Don’t forget your sunglasses when the nuclear war you want so desperately comes your way.
And up to half a million Ukrainians would not be dead, and up to another half a million not maimed and crippled physically or psychologically
History will judge America harshly for what BIDEN’s handlers are doing and getting away with
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