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To: srmanuel

“The war in Ukraine has shown how vulnerable warships can be, things like underwater drones, robotic jet skis loaded down with explosives, over the horizon anti-ship missiles, etc. have all made navy ships vulnerable.”

Do you have any tangible examples to back this up? especially since 99% of the “news” that we are hearing from “ukraine” is pure media propaganda. you know, like the groups of ukranian farmer peasants with pitchforks destroying columns of Russian tanks.........

You dont need “ukraine” to show us anything new under the sun. I would say the USS cole attack in 2000 is a great example of warship vulnerability...........I’m sure theres plenty more I’m not aware of.


4 posted on 09/27/2023 3:52:02 AM PDT by Jaysin (Trump can’t be beat, unless the democrats cheat)
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To: Jaysin

Just a few articles I found.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66373052

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKxQLwErLF8

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/05/innovative-submarine-drone-is-ukraines-new-weapon-against-russian-navy/

https://news.usni.org/2022/10/11/suspected-ukrainian-explosive-sea-drone-made-from-jet-ski-parts

Even though we know both sides are waging massive propaganda wars against each other, we do know that UAVs have been used extensively in the war.

It only makes sense to adapt them to operate in water.

Even if you can’t sink a ship, you can damage it enough to put it out of action or to back off putting it out of range with a relatively few cheap drones especially when the enemy has little to no defense against it.


6 posted on 09/27/2023 4:02:37 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Jaysin

“Do you have any tangible examples “

In this digital age anything can be fabricated and presented with the appearance of extreme legitimacy. IMO the propaganda regarding Ukraine is coming from all sides. It’s really difficult what to believe.

Regarding the Chinese threat in that sea, IMO it’s very real. The question is how effective is their navy? How vulnerable is ours or allied navies?

I strongly dislike the war in Ukraine, but it is showing us old standards like tanks and ships are apparently quite vulnerable to some very simple weapons. If that can be believed.


12 posted on 09/27/2023 4:48:05 AM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not mater how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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To: Jaysin

Grow up.


19 posted on 09/27/2023 5:32:11 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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