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Misunderstanding Islamism and the Gaza War
American Thinker ^ | 11/3/2023 | Joel Gilbert

Posted on 11/03/2023 6:52:24 AM PDT by Tell It Right

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To: FarCenter

Islam is an Arian Heresy


21 posted on 11/03/2023 8:35:43 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Tell It Right
Joel Gilbert is a serious guy.

However, I believe he gets this wrong: As responsibility for the needy is central in Islam, a society with rich elites and poor masses is unacceptable.

If you look at Islamic society, it is filled with rich elites and poor masses.

22 posted on 11/03/2023 8:37:19 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Islam is an Arian Heresy

Islam is the most successful of all Christian heresies.

23 posted on 11/03/2023 8:38:50 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: FatherofFive
were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”

Al Hijrah is the battle plan. Keep in mind, all former Christian countries are now Muslim
24 posted on 11/03/2023 8:39:59 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: existentially_kuffer

“There is no misunderstanding of true Islam”

They made themseves perfectly clear on 9/11


25 posted on 11/03/2023 8:59:35 AM PDT by SMARTY ("A lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies." Tennyson)
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To: Tell It Right

There’s no misunderstanding islam when you realize their end goal is for all of us to be dead.

I understand enough about islam to know how to respond to it.


26 posted on 11/03/2023 9:05:47 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: metmom

Islamisupremacy


27 posted on 11/03/2023 9:21:51 AM PDT by combat_boots ( )
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To: metmom

>>their end goal is for all of us to be dead.

Not true. Their end goal is for all of us to be Muslims.


28 posted on 11/03/2023 10:49:25 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter
Not true. Their end goal is for all of us to be Muslims.

But also the right kind of Muslim, Shia don't consider Shiites to be Muslims, and vice versa.

29 posted on 11/03/2023 10:50:14 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Tell It Right

I would associate the development of freedom of religion with the Dutch Republic and its long wars to keep itself free of Spain and other nations. That, and the emergence of the Dutch bourgeoise elite, provided an environment in which freedom of religion could grow, fostered by both Protestant and Jewish philosophers.

Note that the Pilgrims were English expatriate religious refugees living in Holland before sailing the Mayflower to New England.

And the Dutch colony of New Amsterdam was the most tolerant, secular, and mercantile of the colonies. The Puritans of Massachusetts Bay were less so.


30 posted on 11/03/2023 10:56:11 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: Tell It Right

Certainly the current upsurge and unrest in the Muslim world is based on religion, but I have to wonder just how religious rulers were back in the long ago days before the years of decline. Was religion really more dominant India or Persia than it was in the Christian West of that day?

I’m also not sure that Western ideologies dominated the Islamic world in the years of its decline. It seems like Arabs and others in the Muslim world turned to Western ideologies in a way to move forward from colonial subjugation, but eventually Islamism proved more powerful in many countries.


31 posted on 11/03/2023 11:08:57 AM PDT by x
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To: FarCenter

OK, and then dead, because when they don’t have any infidels to kill, they eat each other alive.

If you’re the wrong kind of muslim, you’ll be just as much a target and the Jews and Christians when they run out of us.


32 posted on 11/03/2023 11:10:52 AM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Tell It Right

Matthew quotes Jesus on the fruits of Islam:

Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles?
So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit.
A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.
Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Thus you will know them by their fruits.


33 posted on 11/03/2023 11:38:48 AM PDT by Species8472 (Don't celebrate sin!)
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>>but eventually Islamism proved more powerful in many countries.

That’s fairly recent. Among the radical fundamentalists, those inspired by the school of theology at Deoband, India are probably the oldest. They were inspired by anti-British feelings in India, and they played a role in splitting off Pakistan and in the formation of the Taliban (with Saudi Wahhabi help).

The Saudi Arabian Wahhabi are even earlier, but they didn’t have influence until they were backed by Saudi oil money and the CIA.

The Muslim Brotherhood was founded in Egypt in 1928.

Khomeini didn’t really get going until ‘63, although the seeds had been planted by British exploitation of Persian oil and by the CIA and MI-6 coup in ‘53.


34 posted on 11/03/2023 11:55:08 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: Tell It Right; Mogger

After 9/11 i read the Quran, then the Hadith (collection of sayings of Mohammed) and other books like “Reliance of the Traveler”.

See my FR home page for much of what I found.

Bottom line: Islam was founded by a caravan robber, murderer, rapist, pedophile. There is a REASON why so many prison inmates convert to Islam: it gives sanction to how they want to behave.


35 posted on 11/03/2023 12:01:10 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Either you will rule. Or you will be ruled. There is no other choice.)
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To: Tell It Right

Islam is a very real existential threat to everyone else in this planet.


36 posted on 11/04/2023 7:18:01 AM PDT by gitmo (If your biography doesn't match your theology, what good is it?)
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