Petraeus says post-war Israeli occupation of Gaza likely ‘inescapable

The Hill ^ | 11/07/2023 | LYDIA MCFARLANE

[NWFree]

Gaza is a horribly failed experiment

[JesusIsLord]

Petraeus says post-war Israeli occupation of Gaza likely ‘inescapable'.

Sorta like U.S. military governing Japan after Japan's defeat.

[Tell It Right]

Germans and Japanese were honorable men. Moslems are not.

True that. But of all the Muslim countries, Turkey (the Ottoman Empire) is the only one I can't think of in history that we took the fight to the Muslims' land and beat them both with war and with a message they their only hope of survival is to surrender and never attack us. Germany and Japan are what they are today because they were on the receiving end of that kind of lesson. Turkey seems to still remember learning that lesson from WW1. It looks to me like Iran needs to learn it.

On a related note: we failed to teach that lesson to Afghanistan and Pakistan (the main hotbeds of Al Qaeda IMHO) after 9/11. Even with what we did in Afghanistan, we could send the message: "Hey, how did killing 3 thousand Americans turn out for y'all losing 70 thousand?" But we don't even say that. Our nation's state departments talk only like we failed to "win over hearts and minds" in Bush fashion.

[DownInFlames]

The only answer is to raze Gaza and turn it into a desert.

[dhs12345]

Or reclaim it and make it like the rest of Israel — a beautiful livable area (previously a desert with sun baked wind swept sands). The Palis and the rest of the Muslims only want Israel because of what the Jews made of it. A beautiful thriving area.

Similar to the Mexico and the United States. If the south western United States had remained with Mexico it would be like Mexico — undeveloped desert and plains. Old whitey made the area livable and made it thrive. They want whitey built.

[dhs12345]

Also this is a perfect example of the conflict between Muslims and Muslim/theocratic countries and western countries.

Muslims seem to want to maintain an “undeveloped desert” where life is difficult and impoverished. Western societies develop the desert (make lemonade) and make it livable and society thrives — women are equal, technology, education, food is plentiful, people are happy and wealthy... society continues to thrive and develop instead of stagnate and die.

You end up with a glaringly obvious contrast of poverty vs a thriving society and this makes Muslims angry and jealous and resentful. Maybe they start blaming their leaders, maybe they blame their religion. Not good for the theocracy.

Just my two cents.