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Man fatally shot by cop on LA freeway was struggling actor, family blasts ‘absolute police brutality’
Nypost ^ | 11/23/2023 | Isabel Keane

Posted on 11/23/2023 11:48:01 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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If all he had was a taser, why not just shoot him in the leg to take him down ??


21 posted on 11/23/2023 12:19:11 PM PST by AirForceVet1988 ("As the pattern gets more intricate and subtle, being swept along is no longer enough.")
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To: frank ballenger

I just had a similar conversation with a state trooper buddy. He told me that they’re scared to do their jobs because they are second guessed and found guilty.

Citizen review boards made by untrained individuals. “He didn’t have his regulation hat on, therefore he’s guilty.”


22 posted on 11/23/2023 12:26:58 PM PST by cyclotic (Don’t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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To: AirForceVet1988

Are you serious? I guess you forgot the /s tag.


23 posted on 11/23/2023 12:27:50 PM PST by cyclotic (Don’t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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To: yukong

I think you are probably correct.

But, we will have to wait and see.


24 posted on 11/23/2023 12:29:16 PM PST by Cen-Tejas
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To: ChicagoConservative27

This was his big acting scene, the chance to play a shooting victim on BodyCam:

“Oh, the pain! The Pain! My world is getting so much darker. I fear my time is short, my flame is flickering out. I regret I have but one death for my community. It is fini!!


25 posted on 11/23/2023 12:29:53 PM PST by OrangeHoof (No food in the stores; fuel prices too high? Thank a liberal.)
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To: AirForceVet1988

.,....or shoot the tazer out of his hand....like in the movies!?


26 posted on 11/23/2023 12:33:52 PM PST by DCBryan1 (Inter arma enim silent leges! - Cicero )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

There is no reason to keep shooting him. If we did that, we would be charged with a crime.


27 posted on 11/23/2023 12:35:23 PM PST by roving (👌⚓Deplorable Listless Vessel with Trumpitist who looks Trumpish)
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To: DCBryan1

To set this controversy down as finished, here is what Joe Biden said on a shooting case:

PHILADELPHIA, Pa. - Law enforcement groups blasted Vice President Joe Biden for again suggesting training police to shoot suspects “in the leg” is a viable way to avoid fatalities, decrying the proposal as dangerous and ignorant.

During an ABC News town hall Thursday, Biden gave the shooting advice while talking about broader police reforms, which have been on the public conscience since the killing of George Floyd sparked nationwide racial unrest.

“There’s a lot of things we’ve learned and it takes time, but we can do this,” Biden said. “You can ban chokeholds ... you have to teach people how to de-escalate circumstances. ... Instead of anybody coming at you and the first thing you do is shoot to kill, you shoot them in the leg.”

October 18, 2020 on Fox website and several other places.
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Detectives’ Endowment Association
@NYCPDDEA

“Former VP Joe Biden’s suggestion that cops should “shoot someone in the leg” if they’re coming at them is insulting and demonstrates his incompetence & inability to understand the grave dangers cops face as they protect the public and themselves from violent, heartless criminals.”


28 posted on 11/23/2023 12:38:39 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging.It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The suspect was armed with a taser which was used or attempted to be used by by the suspect on the cop.

In the video, you can see after the suspect was shot an object falls away from the suspect to his right.

Use a weapon on a cop, things will get ugly. It was a legitimate shoot.


29 posted on 11/23/2023 12:38:41 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: roving

The cop likely had no idea what the suspect was pointing at him. Based on video evidence, it appears the suspect dropped the object, likely a taser, only after being shot.


30 posted on 11/23/2023 12:40:53 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: AirForceVet1988; cyclotic

Is that you, President Biden? If not, that’s the company of analyst you’re with. If the cop had tried to shoot other than center mass, and missed, then what could happen to the cop would be just the way it goes? If he’d hit an artery, would the grieving family be less sad? If, down, he’d pulled a handgun out of his waistband or off his ankle and blew the cop away, what then? Nope. Use a weapon in a cop, and youre done


31 posted on 11/23/2023 12:46:06 PM PST by j.havenfarm (22 years on Free Republic, 12/10/22! more then 6500 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
I watched the video several times. I don't see the guy reach for the cop's gun as they struggle, but I can easily see why the cop might have thought he did.

The guy was flat on the ground already, so I think the main issue is that the cop could have just disengaged by standing up and backing off: which he wound up doing anyway as he shot him.

So the legal question is whether the cop has justifiable fear for his life. Maybe at the first or second shot, but not afterwards.

32 posted on 11/23/2023 12:47:43 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15
So the legal question is whether the cop has justifiable fear for his life.

A taser/pepper spray etc can debilitate or impair a person at least temporarily, at which point the suspect can seize the cops gun. Can't let that happen.

33 posted on 11/23/2023 12:54:33 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

In before “learn to code.”


34 posted on 11/23/2023 1:04:04 PM PST by golux
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To: pierrem15

Btw, reaching for the cops gun is not the issue due to the fact when the shooting happened the suspect was on the ground and the cop was standing when it appears he shot the suspect 3 times. Not including the round that missed and hit the freeway.

In other words, at the time of the actual shooting, the suspect had no way of reaching the cops gun even if he tired. The suspect was shot because he either pointed a taser at the cop or tried to reach for taser.


35 posted on 11/23/2023 1:07:35 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Also notable as an enrolled resident or whatever of a drug addiction treatment center there was no possible way for him to possess a Taser (or anything else) lawfully.

Where did he get that?

It is axiomatic (somehow) that only the worst examples are publicized and emphasized ad nauseam in the press. Always. The “conversation” that ensues always and ever only skews one way. I’m no bootlicker, but these are overall specific techniques to undermine good public order and all those things that are villified by the usual suspects.

Tailor made to sew radicalism, discontent, anarchy, mob rule.


36 posted on 11/23/2023 1:08:38 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Was he wearing his yellow mental patient caution vest?


37 posted on 11/23/2023 1:23:14 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Biden not only suffers fools and criminals, he appoints them to positions of responsibility. )
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To: Drew68

You are wrong, he absolutely did act; HE “ACTED” VERY STUPIDLY ON THE FREEWAY!


38 posted on 11/23/2023 1:37:06 PM PST by 5th MEB
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Aspiring actor?

He just won a Darwin
...


39 posted on 11/23/2023 1:46:41 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Karliner

And gets a take that all is even.


40 posted on 11/23/2023 1:47:55 PM PST by Vaduz (....)
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