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Israel and Ukraine are fighting the same fight
The Hill ^ | 12/04/2023 | JULIE FISHMAN RAYMAN

Posted on 12/04/2023 12:47:07 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27

At first glance, the wars in Israel and Ukraine seem unrelated and bear little similarity. One is a rapid-response counterterrorism operation, the other a years-long, multi-front defensive action focused on reclaiming and protecting sovereign territory.

But what is at stake in both conflicts will have rippling effects for generations to come, far beyond Israel and Ukraine. These are existential struggles against murderous aggressors who possess no regard for human rights or civil liberties.

Unprovoked, both Hamas and Russia used spurious historical justifications as casus belli to invade democratic countries that they wish to wipe off the map.

Their position is unambiguous. The founding charter of Hamas, written in 1988, clearly outlines the goal to “raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine.”

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To: ChicagoConservative27
Putin supports Hamas.

Hire Mossad to whack him.


21 posted on 12/04/2023 2:19:42 PM PST by NoLibZone (We have the nation we deserve The bad guys are willing to protest and riot while we email.)
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To: mrmeyer

Putin supports Hamas.

That’s a significant connection.


22 posted on 12/04/2023 2:21:09 PM PST by NoLibZone (We have the nation we deserve The bad guys are willing to protest and riot while we email.)
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To: All
Hamas has said it will attack Tel Aviv

Tel Aviv, is the most populous city in the metropolitan area of Israel, located on the Israeli Mediterranean coastline with a population of 467,875.

It is the economic and technological center of the country. Tel Aviv is home to most of Israel’s foreign embassies.[b] It is a beta+ world city and is ranked 57th in the 2022 Global Financial Centres Index. Tel Aviv has the third- or fourth-largest economy and the largest economy per capita in the Middle East. The city currently has the highest cost of living in the world. Tel Aviv receives over 2.5 million international visitors annually.

A “party capital” in the Middle East, it has a lively nightlife and 24-hour culture. The city is gay-friendly, with a large LGBT community.Tel Aviv is home to Tel Aviv University, the largest university in the country with more than 30,000 students.

23 posted on 12/04/2023 2:21:22 PM PST by Liz (Women have tremendous power — their femininity, because men can't do without it. Sidney Sheldon)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Equating corrupt Ukraine with Israel is one of the NEWER GLOBALIST PROPAGANDA TALKING POINTS.

It’s BULL CRAP.


24 posted on 12/04/2023 2:24:29 PM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAo prou)
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To: Liz

……is partly b/c….. that’s a signature move right there.


25 posted on 12/04/2023 2:40:07 PM PST by webheart
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To: mrmeyer; All

“What’s the Ukrainian-Israeli connection?”


The Donbas is trying to protect itself from Azov.

Israel is trying to protect itself from Hamas.


26 posted on 12/04/2023 2:49:59 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: MNDude

LOL !


27 posted on 12/04/2023 2:50:44 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
“These are existential struggles against murderous aggressors who possess no regard for human rights or civil liberties. “

Comparing Russia to Hamas, despicable!

28 posted on 12/04/2023 2:54:49 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: ChicagoConservative27; mrmeyer; Eagles6; struggle; marktwain; kp2hot; MNDude; cowboyusa; PGalt; ...

“Israel and Ukraine are fighting the same fight”
“What’s the Ukrainian-Israeli connection?”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Actually since Russia-Iran-Hamas is an alliance, Israel and Ukraine are defending themselves against a COMMON enemy.
Russia needed Iran-Hamas to attack Israel in order to lessen the pressure against Russia on the Ukrainian front - which has already cost about 300.000 Russian lives.
The Hamas attack on Israel is a classic old-school deflection tactic greatly helping Russia against Ukraine.

These articles confirms it:

Putin ‘forming axis of terror’ as he welcomes Hamas and Iran to Moscow
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/26/putin-forming-axis-of-terror-welcomes-hamas-iran-moscow/

Moscow hosts Hamas delegation and Iran’s deputy FM, prompting Israeli outrage
https://www.timesofisrael.com/moscow-hosts-hamas-delegation-and-irans-deputy-fm-prompting-israeli-outrage/


29 posted on 12/04/2023 2:57:49 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: cowboyusa

Israel doesn’t need the money. They aren’t begging for any money.


30 posted on 12/04/2023 3:28:05 PM PST by dforest
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To: JSM_Liberty

<< The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable>>

Disputed by a simple thought…….God had a hard time keeping the early Jews in line. They fell back into idolatry, disobeyed the commandments given to Moses, even Moses himself did wrong in Gods eyes.

When they were brought into the Holy Land it was with instructions to rid the place of all the surrounding heathens so that their sins wouldn’t be picked up by Gods Chosen. Instead, they hung around with them married Canaanite’s and again took to idol worship. They were punished by God over and over again for their sins, sometimes for generations to come.

But God was always forgiving and always giving the Israelites another chance…many chances in fact……He promised a Messiah to save them

When the long awaited Messiah came he showed them the way. He exposed the corruption, sins and hypocrisy of the hierarchy of the synagogue. He taught and set examples……he was rejected !

The Jews whose eyes were opened and saw the truth followed him. They were mostly Jews some gentiles but they saw Jesus as the Messiah promised in their bible, by their fathers for generations. They had no name other than followers, believers, the were simply Jews who believed God had sent them the long promised Messiah and they followed his teachings, which were His Fathers law.

These believers were named by others Christians. They never called themselves Christians or gave up Judaism to “convert” to Christian’s. They were still Jews, Gods chosen people who were thankful to have lived in a time to see their promised Messiah……

The Messiah said he did not come to start a new religion but to save the Jews. (Sorry, I can’t site that, it’s a memory)

Now suppose, just suppose the Jews who followed Jesus, Gods biggest hope on setting them straight are still his Chosen People, given centuries later (by man) new name of Christians……

For all we know thru all these years Christian’s are Gods Chosen People….

(Everything is disputable from then on)


31 posted on 12/04/2023 3:34:29 PM PST by megaMAGA
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The same fight? HAHAHAHA 😂🤣

Please.


32 posted on 12/04/2023 3:44:05 PM PST by GrumpyOldGuy
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To: cowboyusa

So you support the anti-Israel deep state? That’s despicable!


33 posted on 12/04/2023 5:27:14 PM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith

NO, I support Israel. Israel has a deep state just like we do. Both deep states worked together to undermine Netentahu. He is NOT part of the cabal, nor is most of the Keneset.


34 posted on 12/04/2023 5:33:13 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LEFTISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: cowboyusa

That’s one thing you can tell. Because of the Deep State(s) against them both , both Trump and Netanyahu are not of that system.


35 posted on 12/04/2023 5:36:05 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: reasonisfaith

If “Deep State” means the State Department, they don’t like Netanyahu and aren’t pro-Israel by the standards people have here.

If “Deep State” means the Defense Department, they aren’t going to give up on Israel, the “unsinkable aircraft carrier” in the Middle East.


36 posted on 12/04/2023 5:36:58 PM PST by x
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To: cowboyusa

I don’t believe Bibi isn’t part of the cabal.


37 posted on 12/04/2023 5:38:45 PM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: reasonisfaith

Ok.


38 posted on 12/04/2023 5:42:39 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LEFTISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: x

It’s the spiritual wickedness in high places that I don’t like, and I’m no fan of the synagogue of satan either.


39 posted on 12/04/2023 5:43:08 PM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: cowboyusa

Any national leader truly allied with the people of his country would be actively fighting against the cabal.


40 posted on 12/04/2023 5:49:45 PM PST by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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