Posted on 12/13/2023 9:11:18 AM PST by Angelino97
The testimony of three university presidents before a House committee last week provoked outrage after they suggested that calls on their campuses for Jewish genocide might not have violated their schools’ free speech policies. One of them, Liz Magill, was forced to step down on Saturday as president of the University of Pennsylvania, where I am a faculty member.
But their statements shouldn’t have come as a surprise. Congress could have assembled two dozen university presidents and likely would have received the same answer from each of them.
This is because the value of free speech has been elevated to a near-sacred level on university campuses. As a result, universities have had to tolerate hate speech — even hate speech calling for violence against ethnic or religious minorities. With the dramatic rise in antisemitism, we are discovering that this is a mistake: Antisemitism — and other forms of hate — cannot be fought on university campuses without restricting poisonous speech that targets Jews and other minorities.
University presidents are resisting this conclusion. Rather than confront the conflict between the commitment to free speech and the commitment to eliminating the hostile environment facing Jewish students on campus, many simply affirm their commitment to both or buy time by setting up task forces to study the problem. Some have attempted to split the difference by saying they are institutionally committed to free speech but personally offended by antisemitism. Others have said the answer to hate speech is education and more speech.
Countering speech with more speech might just mean adding to the hateful rhetoric on campus and would not solve the problem.
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This is the kind of article that belongs in Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia or Maoist China, not the United States Of America!
Sadly, that’s true.
Yeah, no. But speech caries consequences.
Someone is smoking dope, dropping acid, and chugging vodka ... all at the same time.
No. We do not need to restrict speech.
We do need to:
1. Restrict disruption of speech, by anyone. To protest is not to disrupt others by your protest. To protest is not to prevent others from speaking or intimidate or physically attacks others just because you disagree with them. To protest includes no right to try to silence others.
2. Those who violate the first principle should obtain penalties for their actions, including their ability to protest limited in place and time.
3. Schools who do not adhere to the first and second principles must have all public funding ended.
You counter bad ideas by insuring better ideas can be heard not by shutting up the speakers of bad ideas.
The Left is afraid of true free speech because they have spent decades silencing those who oppose them. Conservatives betray their own Conservatism when they seek to silence others.
A campus wide Draw Mohammed Contest should put an end to things.
[[Bull. This is a false equivalency. It asserts that pro-israel speech is just as hateful as support for exterminating jews. ]]
Needs repeating- Exactly right!
F@#$ them all. Jews should go to community colleges and trade schools, yeshiva, or self-educate, as I did (all three). Let Asians step into the vacant slots, and f@#$ them, too. Elite colleges are a cesspool everyone is better off avoiding.
With respect, sir, I think you have it backwards. They teach children to hate GOD. In America, Christians, not Jews, are His chief representatives. They teach hatred of Christians first, last, and continuously, so much so that it becomes a pervasive stench and people sort of stop noticing it. Then somebody does something outrageous to Jews (Oct 7 rape/massacre, for example) and we're all up in arms about "antisemitism". Because it's unusual. Meanwhile, the anti-Christian culture still stinks.
The people saying we need to restrict speech are the same idiots who claim “silence is violence.” If they were truthful, the would admit they only want to restrict speech they disagree with.
Every bigot on campus should have the ability to shout their death lust at full volume. I actually prefer monsters to self identify so I don’t accidentally socialize with them, hire them, or patronize their businesses. When they accost, impede, threaten, or otherwise harass Jews they should be expelled, charged, and in many cases deported.
This is the balance in a free society.
How about restrict the border?
Claudine Gay, the MIT president, might claim she “frowns upon” genocide advocacy but won’t admit that it violates Harvard’s code of conduct.
Nutters have shut down the LA freeway over Gaza.
re:” Antisemitism — and other forms of hate — cannot be fought on university campuses without restricting poisonous speech that targets Jews and other minorities. “
Yet....Verbal bashing of white men is OK and transgendered males physically bashing women in sports is OK.
And...Don’t misgender by using the wrong pronoun! That’s **violence** if you didn’t know.
The liberal communists running these so-called universities are bat-flapping crazy. It would be laughable but to them the gulag is “reeducation” and certainly **not**violence.
so maybe this is the ploy: say enough crazy shit to make people clamor for restricted speech. Obamacare was created to be just messy enough and expensive to inspire people to ask for more government so....
Nuttiest characters in the almond factory.
No thank you and GFY
Yet....Verbal bashing of white men is OK and transgendered males physically bashing women in sports is OK.
And so, class, what lesson are we to learn from this, hmm?
It's telling how many people on this thread are missing the real point.
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