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EU’s top diplomat: Palestinian state may need to be imposed on Israel from outside
Times of Israel ^ | 1/19/2024 | Jacob Magid

Posted on 01/19/2024 1:59:16 PM PST by fruser1

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To: fruser1

If the purpose is a peaceful resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict... think again. If the purpose is perpetual war with the ultimate genocide of either or both groups, then they are spot on.


41 posted on 01/19/2024 2:37:26 PM PST by Thistledew (Prepare, for a future without Biden?)
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To: outofsalt

Oh my, no one expects the Spanish Socialist Workers Party!


42 posted on 01/19/2024 2:38:06 PM PST by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna! 1 gone, 1 almost dead. )
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To: fruser1

For many European politicians, they likely see this as a “solution” to the problem.

It’s in reality a form of appeasement which will guaranteed not work. The desired outcome (greater stability and peace) will not happen.

The Europeans in particular, still do not want to believe / accept what is actually happening.

This is a war of civilizations and in a conflict if you don’t want to accept or believe that the other guy wants to punch you in the nose, you simply get punched in the nose in ignorance. Your denial or disbelief won’t change the other persons motive and MO.

Islam is simply incompatible with liberal (classic meaning) Western society. It does not work with our form of law, democracy, and our ideas of individual rights.

We keep running into the same issue over and over and the real problem isn’t even Islam and the Muslims. Their doctrine is publicly available in every language online for free (read the Koran and what to do with non believers). Their leaders both political and religious do not hide what agenda they support. There are opinion polls by Western and somewhat objective organizations which tell you clearly what many of these people believe. The history of Islam and how it conquers and converts by force is well written about even if we try to blame ourselves. The real face of Islam is apparent everywhere it takes control even today may that be in Lebanon, Sudan, Egypt, Niger...

The real problem is that in the West you have a zero learning curve: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_curve

In a Western secular mind, the idea of a society being organized around religion is incomprehensible. But that is what you have in Islam. Their law is Sharia. Their food is defined by the rules of Halal. Their dress, sexual relations, language, business, even form of government and an individuals rights are all defined by their religion.

In the West where diversity, inclusion and equality have become pseudo-moralistic battle cries, it is very hard to use derogatory ideas to define or deal with another religion, even if it is this one single religion which cannot seem to get along with anyone else, may that be Hindu, Zoroastrians, Bahia, Buddhists, Christians, Shinto, or Jews. Even if it is glaringly obvious, as in one of them is different than the others: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6keZIUJBsQ

NO ONE in the political class in the West wants to call it out, even here in the US.

So, you end up with stupid ideas like this. Fake solutions for problems we refuse to address.


43 posted on 01/19/2024 2:39:34 PM PST by Red6
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To: fruser1

Germans always looking for a military solution, a final solution to Jewish questions.


44 posted on 01/19/2024 2:40:29 PM PST by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI)
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To: MeganC
If the EU wants to go to war against Israel then there better not be any complaints when Israel conquers Europe.

Britain and France have nukes.

And Israel can't t conquer Europe with only conventional weapons. Without America continually resupplying its military with ordnance, Israel would even have ceased its Gaza incursion by now.

45 posted on 01/19/2024 2:40:40 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: House Atreides

Most of these knuckehead bully countries have surrendered all their weapons to Ukraine.

I guess Israel could tell them to piss off.


46 posted on 01/19/2024 2:42:15 PM PST by dforest
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To: silent majority rising
They gone to war with God and think they will just sweep Israel out of the way.

If God can cause the Flood, and destroy the world, I think He can probably handle those chumps, with ease. 👍

47 posted on 01/19/2024 2:44:30 PM PST by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF Captain & pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: Angelino97

At this point... I’m ok with wars of conquest and empire. Enough of this terrorism crap...

End the attackers and take their land for your own.

We should have done the same in Iraq and Afghanistan. Conquer the land, keep it.


48 posted on 01/19/2024 2:45:05 PM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: fruser1

“If everyone is in favor of this solution, the international community will have to impose it.”
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Sure, and they will do that... Russia and a bunch of Arab nations will a go at it (Gog and Magog - Ezekiel 38 and 39) and then the rest of the world has a go at it as lead by the king of the west - Revelation 16:16 “And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.”

Well, I’ve read the end of the book and know how it turns out....


49 posted on 01/19/2024 2:48:10 PM PST by hecticskeptic (Q. What’s the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth? A. About 6 months....)
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To: Mark17; silent majority rising
They gone to war with God and think they will just sweep Israel out of the way.

If God can cause the Flood, and destroy the world, I think He can probably handle those chumps, with ease.

The Church teaches that God had the Romans destroy Jerusalem in A.D. 70 as retribution for the Jews' rejection of Jesus. So I wouldn't assume that God necessarily sides with modern Israel.

50 posted on 01/19/2024 2:51:01 PM PST by Angelino97
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To: fruser1

European Union foreign policy chief Josep Borrell is stupid if he thinks anyone can impose anything on the Israeli nuclear state.


51 posted on 01/19/2024 2:53:00 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I wonder how long it would take for a missile to travel from Israel to Malta...Rome...Madrid...Berlin...


The missile only has to go to the Hague.


52 posted on 01/19/2024 2:53:40 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Fledermaus
Our chief weapon is surprise!
53 posted on 01/19/2024 2:56:05 PM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: fruser1

Mossad, cleanup on isle 4


54 posted on 01/19/2024 2:56:52 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: fruser1

the EuroNazis will die if they attempt invading Israel
(and most unfortunately they’ll have caused the deaths of millions of innocent people in their countries)


55 posted on 01/19/2024 2:57:24 PM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: fruser1

Such an idiot you’d think that after 4 previous attempts at giving the Paleoanimals their own state, only to be turned down 4 times, that the Eurowinnie would learn from recent history.

The only state of their own would encompass all of Israel and there would not be a single Jew or Christian in it.


56 posted on 01/19/2024 2:57:32 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: fruser1

Palestinian state - wasn’t Gaza a Palestinian state?

Now if they want to carve out a bit of Egypt or Jordan or Syria go ahead knock your self out. Just don’t expect Israel to accept giving up part of Israel to the Palestinians after Oct 7. There is nothing Israel can do to stop the blood lust of the Muslims in the area so why should they concede anything?


57 posted on 01/19/2024 2:57:51 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: I want the USA back
He underestimates the Israelis!

No, he underestimates the Holy One of Israel.
58 posted on 01/19/2024 2:59:19 PM PST by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: fruser1

These idiots don’t get it. A “Palestinian “ state will solve nothing. They just want to kill all Jews.


59 posted on 01/19/2024 3:01:53 PM PST by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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To: fruser1

Will they force the Palestinian State to keep their missiles within their own borders?


60 posted on 01/19/2024 3:05:56 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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