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Conservative group tells judge it has no evidence to back its claims of Georgia ballot stuffing
MSN ^ | 14th February 2024 | RUSS BYNUM

Posted on 02/14/2024 4:59:51 PM PST by Ennis85

A conservative group has told a Georgia judge that it doesn't have evidence to support its claims of illegal ballot stuffing during the the 2020 general election and a runoff two months later.

Texas-based True the Vote filed complaints with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger in 2021, including one in which it said it had obtained “a detailed account of coordinated efforts to collect and deposit ballots in drop boxes across metro Atlanta” during the November 2020 election and a January 2021 runoff.

A Fulton County Superior Court judge in Atlanta signed an order last year requiring True the Vote to provide evidence it had collected, including the names of people who were sources of information, to state elections officials who were frustrated by the group's refusal to share evidence with investigators. In their written response, attorneys for True the Vote said the group had no names or other documentary evidence to share.

“Once again, True the Vote has proven itself untrustworthy and unable to provide a shred of evidence for a single one of their fairy-tale allegations," Raffensperger spokesman Mike Hassinger said Wednesday. "Like all the lies about Georgia’s 2020 election, their fabricated claims of ballot harvesting have been repeatedly debunked.”

True the Vote’s assertions were relied upon heavily for “2000 Mules,” a widely debunked film by conservative pundit and filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza. A State Election Board investigation found that surveillance camera footage that the film claimed showed ballot stuffing actually showed people submitting ballots for themselves and family members who lived with them, which is allowed under Georgia law.

The election board subpoenaed True the Vote to provide evidence that would assist it in investigating the group's ballot trafficking allegations.

True the Vote's complaint said its investigators "spoke with several individuals regarding personal knowledge, methods,

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: 2000mules; 2020election; billgates; bradraffensperger; dissociatedpress; fakeheadline; fakenews; fraud; lyingjournalist; microsoft; msn; msnpropaganda; russbynum; stopthesteal; tds; truethevote; trump; uniparty; voterfraud
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Liberals grift off the government. Conservatives grift off their voters.


41 posted on 02/14/2024 6:08:55 PM PST by GrootheWanderer
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To: kiryandil

Yup. Sources usually will not go on record because of risks to their jobs and careers and their own complicity in civil and criminal wrongdoing.


42 posted on 02/14/2024 6:11:14 PM PST by Rockingham (`)
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To: kiryandil
The evidence would be used to go after True The Vote's confidential sources.
But you already knew that before you posted, didn't you?


Yes, he knew that. From the text linked:
"Frustrated by the group's refusal to share evidence, Georgia officials took it to court last year. A judge ordered True the Vote to turn over names and contact information for anyone who had provided information, as well as any recordings, transcripts, witness statements or other documents supporting its allegations.
The group came up empty-handed despite having “made every additional reasonable effort to locate responsive items,” its attorneys David Oles and Michael Wynne wrote in a Dec. 11 legal filing first reported Wednesday by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution."

TTV either never had this information, or subsequently destroyed to protect their sources. It was a very smart thing to do.
43 posted on 02/14/2024 6:27:05 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: rlmorel

You respond just like a leftist when confronted by truths you can’t handle. Nothing but inchoate profanities. Do some research. Start with Greg Phillips.


44 posted on 02/14/2024 6:27:17 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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Is this like when the Maricopa County Judge Peter Thompson made the rules for the case so narrow that he could say there wasn’t anything wrong with the 2022 AZ Governor’s race?


45 posted on 02/14/2024 6:28:06 PM PST by TakebackGOP
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To: Ennis85

“Widely debunked film?”


46 posted on 02/14/2024 6:30:21 PM PST by sauropod (Ne supra crepidam.)
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To: kiryandil

“You have to remember that Rattenspewer and his minions were INTENSELY interested in obtaining the name of one of the ballot box stuffers who came clean to True The Vote.
And it wasn’t because they wanted to expose vote fraud...“

THIS


47 posted on 02/14/2024 6:31:13 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Says the ignorant asshole who doesn’t even know what a GPS coordinate is.


48 posted on 02/14/2024 6:42:58 PM PST by rlmorel ("The stigma for being wrong is gone, as long as you're wrong for the right side." (Clarice Feldman))
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To: rlmorel

After I do all that, I’m gonna need a shower. Grody!


49 posted on 02/14/2024 6:49:19 PM PST by sauropod (Ne supra crepidam.)
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To: Ennis85
conservative group has told a Georgia judge that it doesn't have evidence to support its claims of illegal ballot stuffing during the the 2020 general election and a runoff two months later.

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

50 posted on 02/14/2024 6:53:21 PM PST by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Without evidence, what do you change?


51 posted on 02/14/2024 6:55:00 PM PST by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: DoodleBob

We don’t have the option to just ignore it. Because if we don’t understand it fully and accept it, we won’t succeed.

There are certain protocols that can listen, but cannot talk at the same time. Like a CB radio. That is called “half-duplex”.

And there are other protocols that can both talk and listen at the same time. That is “full-duplex”.

Effective action in today’s world calls us to operate in full-duplex mode. Which requires understanding the past at the same time we seek to understand the present.

We have to multitask to do it right. Leftists, like some of the jackwads we see on this thread, don’t bother. They just roar ahead at half-duplex. They ignore the past, because they don’t think there are any valid lessons to be learned from it. And they make progress towards their goals.

But they always fail in the end, because they never learn about the past.

We should avoid making the mistake of thinking we can ignore the past and chart a successful path to the future.


52 posted on 02/14/2024 6:57:21 PM PST by rlmorel ("The stigma for being wrong is gone, as long as you're wrong for the right side." (Clarice Feldman))
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To: rlmorel
Says the ignorant asshole who doesn’t even know what a GPS coordinate is.

Not only are you foul, but a liar.

Show me the money
More show me the money

53 posted on 02/14/2024 6:59:23 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: sauropod

Yeah. It is an unclean, but necessary process.


54 posted on 02/14/2024 7:05:30 PM PST by rlmorel ("The stigma for being wrong is gone, as long as you're wrong for the right side." (Clarice Feldman))
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To: Ennis85
"attorneys for True the Vote said the group had no names or other documentary evidence to share."

In other words, TTV refused to provide names of protected sources, to protect them from retribution.

Catherine and Gregg were handcuffed and imprisoned for refusing to divulge name of a protected source.

Catherine was forced to shower in front of male guards.

55 posted on 02/14/2024 7:07:22 PM PST by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: joesbucks
There is plenty of evidence. "brought to you by Pfizer" lies about EVERYTHING. Seems you would have noticed by now.

Are you even curious about the mathematical impossibility of Joe Biden's "victory?"


56 posted on 02/14/2024 7:08:32 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Nah. You will just stick your head back into your stinking hole, and we won’t hear from you again for a while until you think it is safe enough to come out.


57 posted on 02/14/2024 7:13:03 PM PST by rlmorel ("The stigma for being wrong is gone, as long as you're wrong for the right side." (Clarice Feldman))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Show me how it was done. That’s all I ask. Problem is, you can’t. And a key player in all this now suddenly can’t provide evidence for their claims. And likely because what they claimed it didn’t happen.


58 posted on 02/14/2024 7:18:13 PM PST by joesbucks (It's called love-bombing. Claiming he's saving the world. This is a cult. Just back away. )
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To: rlmorel


"Someone who thinks he’s bright, but after having some interaction with him, realized he doesn’t know squat.

And worse, he doesn’t know it."


Reminds me of another resident troll here whose name starts with a "T"...
59 posted on 02/14/2024 7:23:32 PM PST by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: Ennis85

The ballot stuffing is almost impossible to prove. ‘24 will be the same.


60 posted on 02/14/2024 7:24:46 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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