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THE US INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY ASSESSES THE STATE OF THE RUSSIAN MILITARY
Sandbox ^ | 3/18/24 | STAVROS ATLAMAZOGLOU

Posted on 03/20/2024 6:54:19 AM PDT by hardspunned

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“Until the Russian army recovers, it will fall on the Russian navy and Russian Aerospace Forces to provide some sort of global power projection capabilities.“

That is a quote from the article.

When was the Russian Air Force and Navy ever anything but that? Of course it is the Air Force and Navy that does projection. You can’t march the Russian Army to Venezuela.

But in a larger sense this sort of report is what we can expect from the media regardless of outcome. A Ukraine military junta taking control, killing all the CIA and MI6 assets on site in Kiev, and working with their university classmates in the Russian senior military cadre, is the most likely end to the war. Russia will have a pro Russian government in place composed entirely of Ukraine military, and our media will describe this as a great victory because Russia will announce it can demobilize.


21 posted on 03/20/2024 7:20:37 AM PDT by Owen (.)
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To: bobbo666

Their lies are starting to catch up on them and the reality of what can happen is going to blow up in their faces and also to many innocents who will suffer.


22 posted on 03/20/2024 7:21:07 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: hardspunned

And we should believe them because......................


23 posted on 03/20/2024 7:22:50 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: hardspunned
What total BS! The Uke War was lost before it ever began because of lies and self delusion like this.

In Washington DC, there are no consequences for lying, and no consequences for stupidity and failure. Everyone gets paid as normal, everyone gets promoted as normal

Its why they all work so hard to protect the bloated bureaucracy and deep-state

24 posted on 03/20/2024 7:23:03 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: hardspunned

Before people even try to understand this war, they need to know that Russia lost 20 million people in WWII. The Germans slaughtered everyone they could get their hands on (including my family) on their way to Moscow. The obvious, and declared goal of the Globalists is to strangle Russia and impose their vision on it, and the rest of the world. Putin is not going to submit. He may be an evil son-of-a-bitch, but the Russians are used to having evil sons of bitches as their rulers. And, in fact, most Russians, somehow, revere them, (even Stalin). Go to a city park on a Sunday and you will see their old veterans proudly wearing their service medals from WWII etc.. We are playing with fire, cosmic fire.
From the words of Frederick Douglas: “Power concedes nothing without a fight. It never did and it never will.


25 posted on 03/20/2024 7:23:17 AM PDT by Torahman (Remember the Maccabees )
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More than two years after the whole-scale invasion of Ukraine, is Russia still a near-peer threat to the United States?

What are the capabilities of the Russian military after 24 months of heavy fighting against a determined Ukrainian military equipped with Western weapon systems?

How soon can the Russian armed forces replenish the devastating losses they have been taking in the fighting?

These are just some of the questions the U.S. Intelligence Community analyzes in its latest annual threat assessment.

Released every year in early spring, the annual threat assessment delves into the most acute threats to U.S. national security and projects how these issues will affect America.

China remains at the forefront of threats to the United States. In the long term, Beijing will challenge U.S. supremacy not just in the Indo-Pacific but also around the world.

But on a more short-term, but still important, level, Moscow continues to directly threaten the U.S. and NATO in an attempt to gather leverage in Europe and elsewhere.

The Russian military has lost more men than at any time since World War II. Western intelligence estimates put the number of Russian losses to over 300,000 men killed and wounded.

Russia has also lost thousands of heavy combat vehicles. Until the Russian army recovers, it will fall on the Russian navy and Russian Aerospace Forces to provide some sort of global power projection capabilities.

“Moscow’s military forces will face a multi-year recovery after suffering extensive equipment and personnel losses during the Ukraine conflict. Moscow will be more reliant on nuclear and counterspace capabilities for strategic deterrence as it works to rebuild its ground force,” the Intelligence Community estimated in its annual threat assessment.

Although the Russian Ministry of Defense has announced plans to enlarge the military, it will take the Kremlin years to rebuild its previous combat capacity, let alone enlarge it. And it’s not just about numbers - rather, to increase its capabilities, the Russian military will need modern weapon systems and to provide adequate training to its soldiers.

“Moscow’s announced plans to massively expand its ground forces almost certainly will fall short, but nonetheless will over time result in a larger even if not qualitatively better military,” the Intelligence Community assessed.

The Kremlin is pouring big bucks on its military, offering significant pay and benefits to attract more men to enlist. It also has a national service system that provides more troops, though of questionable quality.

But the Kremlin is also relying heavily on private military companies to achieve its ends, and the U.S. Intelligence Community assesses that it will continue to do so even without the powerful Wagner Group mercenary group in the picture.

“Russia will rely on private military and security companies (PMSCs) and paramilitary groups to achieve its objectives on the battlefield in Ukraine, to augment Russian forces, to move weapons and to train fighters, to hide Moscow’s hand in sensitive operations, and to project influence and power in the Middle East and Africa,” the annual threat report stated.


26 posted on 03/20/2024 7:28:12 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: hardspunned

Whatever US intelligence says...believe the opposite.


27 posted on 03/20/2024 7:28:38 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: Owen

our media will describe this as a great victory because Russia will announce it can demobilize.

As your great victory is announced after the fall of Kiev, the Moscovian army will continue its march across the Baltics and south and east into Poland.


28 posted on 03/20/2024 7:31:52 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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But why? Why would Russian leadership want to deal with all the Muslim influx in Europe? And in a more pure way, what is it you think Europe has that Russia wants?

Poland has no oil. No one other than Norway in Europe has oil. Netherlands has nat gas remaining they chose not to flow, but no one else does.

It is the basic, fundamental reality that you will never hear from Europe. They have nothing an invading force would want.

Certainly not the largest nat gas reserves holder on the planet. The issue with Ukraine from day 1 is the eastern edge of the Donbas is less than 100 miles from Volgograd, through which flows 4 million barrels/day. The CIA and MI6 could never be allowed that close. It would be like allowing an enemy force concentration within 100 miles of the Permian.


29 posted on 03/20/2024 7:41:10 AM PDT by Owen (.)
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Who invaded Russia and slaughtered your family? A coalition of Germany and six other current members of NATO did and killed 20 million Russians. How did they invade Russia? That coalition of current NATO members invaded along the route NATO is trying establish today. Who’s standing on the Russia border screaming forced regime change in Moscow? Yep, the same coalition of current NATO members who invaded in ‘41 plus many more, including the self proclaimed Nazis in Ukraine. Putin says not this time and that’s the excuse for that same coalition to saber rattle about WWIII and threaten to kill a 100 million Russians. I know the history, you know the history, the dip$hits and traitors in DC are about to make that same history.


30 posted on 03/20/2024 7:41:16 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: PIF

Ridiculous, isn’t it?


31 posted on 03/20/2024 7:42:44 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

I haven’t read the intel propaganda report but I bet there is nothing in there that acknowledges that two years of war has given Russian troops ground combat experience that no other world power now possesses on the planet. There is nothing like hands on combat to temper the troops, test combat tactics, and refine war fighting equipment.


32 posted on 03/20/2024 7:44:17 AM PDT by iontheball
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OK, you explain why Russia still hasn’t won and is bogged-down, after more than 2 years, against an opponent 1/20th its size


33 posted on 03/20/2024 7:49:20 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Spok

The U.S. “intelligence community” has two purposes. It overthrows legitimate governments DC does not like, as they did in Ukraine and they tailor bogus assessments to further DC political narratives. Intelligence gathering? Yeah, right! I don’t know of any actual factual intelligence they’ve gathered and acted on in my lifetime.


34 posted on 03/20/2024 7:50:37 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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Sadly for your boys, no; it may in fact be a tad conservative.


35 posted on 03/20/2024 7:56:13 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: iontheball

Are you kidding? These hacks are too busy conniving with the Biben Junta on the next lies about Ukraine and how to make crap up that links Trump to Putin for Crossfire Hurricane 2.0. We waste billions on their political shenanigans. They should invest $9.99 on a magic eight ball to upgrade their intelligence gathering.


36 posted on 03/20/2024 7:56:49 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

Was it Clauswitz or Sun Tzu or Napoleon who said “Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake”? Whichever, it applies to these “intelligence” publications from the Western elites telling themselves Russia is coming out the worse in this conflict. These people, like the culture they inhabit, live not in the real world but in a world of fantasy and self-delusion.


37 posted on 03/20/2024 7:57:15 AM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: Owen

But why?

Why? Because, as they have more or less stated, it is to restore the former borders of the USSR. It has little to do with natural resources and everything to do with Russian national pride and the ego of ‘Shorty’ Putin.


38 posted on 03/20/2024 7:59:12 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: iontheball

As Russian troops gain combat experience, they tend to die.


39 posted on 03/20/2024 8:00:37 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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40 posted on 03/20/2024 8:06:48 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (NATO - now celebrating 75 successful years of keeping the Russian monsters out!!)
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