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Recovered data recorder from crashed ship in Baltimore reveals pilot called for tugboat help minutes before plowing into bridge
MSN ^ | 3-27-24

Posted on 03/28/2024 4:26:54 AM PDT by nuconvert

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To: John S Mosby

1977 unions reined supreme - union built, lowest bidder, cheapest materials, poorest design.

Ear droppings from the woman that heads the NTSB.


61 posted on 03/28/2024 8:37:41 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: nuconvert

COVER UP begins.

Nothing to see here, move along.


62 posted on 03/28/2024 9:04:39 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: nuconvert
“And Russia has just experienced a horrific terrorist event that may have had NATO and/or CIA involvement”

Oh PLEEEZE.


Oh really?

I guess the videos of Vicroria Nuland, the point person of our disastrous meddling in Ukraine internal affairs, telegraphing with a smirk that the recent round of funding for Ukraine is going to enable the execution of asymmetric attacks to bring the fight to the Russian homeland and the Russian people were idle jests?

When you make a threat and that threat materializes it's kind of logical to assume that threat was made good on.

63 posted on 03/28/2024 9:08:44 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: nuconvert

“I have no idea what the facts really are”

Me either, and far be it for the media to actually do the work to report the REAL facts.


64 posted on 03/28/2024 9:11:17 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: nuconvert

I’ll ask you all again...

What direction does a ship go if it loses steering capability?

The direction it was ALREADY GOING!

This ship made a 90 degree turn RIGHT INTO THE BRIDGE SUPPORT!

Watch the 8x speed video. Accident? Only a FOOL could believe this was an accident.


65 posted on 03/28/2024 9:11:28 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: 3RIVRS
Yeah, because there are no conspiracies are there. I wonder why they even have conspiracy law statutes on the books. Do you know why they do?

The reality is that nobody has even claimed this as a conspiracy. This was the dissemination of facts that the NTSB revealed after their inspection if the black box.

However, it raised more questions than it answered.

Some people rightly raise questions. In case you are unaware, there are no such thing as stupid questions, as long as those questions have not already been answered. But that still doesn't make the question stupid, it just makes it a redundant question.

But honestly, when the first statement out of the mouths of officials is one in which they state it is not an act of terrorism, that statement needs to be questioned immediately. I mean it's not like we have no evidence of the government lying to the people. In fact, there is far too much evidence that they do lie to the people. Once you lie to someone, you can expect to be questioned about your honesty going forward.

Deal with your recovery. That should be your focus, not relieving your irrelevant boredom.

66 posted on 03/28/2024 9:14:24 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: PIF; V_TWIN

Have you SEEN a modern tugboat??

These things are QUICK and POWERFUL.
They’ve got a pair of huge diesel engines.
IF there had been any tug within a mile it could’ve been alongside shoving that ship around in as little as 90 seconds, and God only knows what could have come of it.
Those tug Captains — those guys are fekkin ARTISTS.
They know where to shove, when to shove, how hard to shove and get these mammoth ships nosed into and out of places like slipping a letter into a mail slot.
And they don’t need to lash up to the ship to do all of it; much of their pushing is accomplished without a hawser secured.

The Pilot likely knew it was a slim-to-none chance, but he made the call, anyway, in hope against hope.

All water — uh — over the bridge, now, but the Pilot made all the right moves with the situation he was handed. Nothing to condemn there.


67 posted on 03/28/2024 9:15:58 AM PDT by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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To: nuconvert

Since the pilot seems to have performed properly, the obvious questions involve the loss of power. The following is just thoughts on what an investigation might entail. I’m not expecting answers.

Mechanical problems.
History of prior power failures?
When did the crew first have signs power failure was approaching that morning? Who built the ship? Who did the major maintenance?
Were any maintenance/repairs called for that had been skipped?
Were there problems with controls? Did some idiot or malefactor shut off the engines accidentally or on purpose?

Contaminated fuel.
When/where was fuel taken on? Who provided it? Do the tanks and lines it came from have contaminated product in them now? History of problems with contaminated fuel in the same area? Who would have profited by diluting the fuel? Kickbacks for looking the other way? How did they expect to get away with it?
Was there a recent switchover from certain onboard reservoirs to others? Does the ship have fuel-filtering, testing, monitoring systems and protocols? How full were/are the reservoirs? At the critical moment, was fuel coming off the “bottom of the barrel”/picking up trash?

My guess is some systematic corruption with contaminated fuel is at the root of this — whether it was taken on in Baltimore or well prior to the incident. Baltimore seems like a corrupt place, but there are lots of others.


68 posted on 03/28/2024 9:24:29 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: HKMk23

Yes I have many times seen tugboats & they are not that fast. Keep dreaming. Those boats were too far away to do anything.


69 posted on 03/28/2024 9:39:03 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: JSM_Liberty

YOU WIN POST OF THE DAY !!!!!!


70 posted on 03/28/2024 10:37:03 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: central_va

Ok, so an anchor on the front of the ship.

If you’re on a boat and you drop the port, or left, bow anchor....

Which way do you think the boat will pull once the anchor finds ground?

Would the front of the ship pull left or right?


71 posted on 03/28/2024 12:15:40 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: brent13a

“We know you’re just saying “zionist” try to make yourself not sound like the bigoted conspiracy theorist you actually are.”

LOL, being against World War 3 in Ukraine forces me to use alternative sources of new on the war (i.e., truthful sources). If you want to see ABJECT HATRED of Israel (and by extension, as you say and I agree, Jews), read what they post. To me, at least, Russia is in a similar position as Israel*, with enemies that CLEARLY want to take control of their country (in the case of Israel, also exterminate most of the residents). But they simply HATE ISRAEL and literally blame them for everything bad that happens in the world.

It’s sickening to see that.

*others are welcome to disagree with me, or at least claim such for other reasons


72 posted on 03/28/2024 1:27:31 PM PDT by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: brent13a

“Okay. My apologies. I saw that you were being sarcastic. Sorry!”

No need to apologize, as I’m the one breaking the rules by not stating sarcasm! So regardless of what response I get in these types of postings, it’s on me!


73 posted on 03/28/2024 1:30:05 PM PDT by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: nuconvert

The coast guard would have jursadiction over the accident, the NTSB just revcovered the Voyage Data Recorder to get a timeline of events.


74 posted on 03/28/2024 2:07:44 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: rdcbn1

you wont see a bridge across that area in no less than a decade


75 posted on 03/28/2024 2:49:02 PM PDT by al baby (I know sarcasm )
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To: nuconvert

It’s ironic that a ship named Dali turned that bridge into something that looks like a Salvador Dali painting.


76 posted on 03/28/2024 4:09:06 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: V_TWIN

I must’ve misread you. I saw a video on youtube that reported two tugs were escorting the Dali until it had established itself in the channel leaving the harbor. Then they were dismissed or allowed to end their duty. Fairly sure this is the one. 8 minutes.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N39w6aQFKSQ&pp=ygUNTVYgRGFsaSBUcmFjaw%3D%3D


77 posted on 03/28/2024 4:21:34 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS

...Before the Dali lost power and hit the bridge.


78 posted on 03/28/2024 4:22:32 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS

Thank you for posting this.


79 posted on 03/28/2024 5:33:47 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: circlecity

That turning into the direction of the bridge support at the very last, could have been from an unintended consequence of dropping on the of anchors.


80 posted on 03/29/2024 7:49:51 AM PDT by Texan4Life
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