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Recovered data recorder from crashed ship in Baltimore reveals pilot called for tugboat help minutes before plowing into bridge
MSN ^ | 3-27-24

Posted on 03/28/2024 4:26:54 AM PDT by nuconvert

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To: sten

Apparently it doesn’t matter. We make ships so big now and have so much momentum that the anchors can’t stop them. The anchors are just for show I guess.


81 posted on 03/29/2024 9:16:51 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: V_TWIN

You have no control over when you figure out you have a problem. Sometimes it’s too late.


82 posted on 03/29/2024 9:18:53 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: central_va

Anchors must at least allow for a vessel of that size to be insured! :-D


83 posted on 03/29/2024 10:48:32 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: central_va

Anchors have never been about stopping ships. Anchors are for controlling drift of already stopped ships. They were most used for exploring ships, ie when you wanted to park a ship where there was no port. And get used in heavy weather. But they’ve never been like in the movies.


84 posted on 03/29/2024 11:03:44 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: faucetman

“ I’ll ask you all again...

What direction does a ship go if it loses steering capability?

The direction it was ALREADY GOING!”

Not exactly. If you crank the rudder to the side and cut power, it will coast into the turn. IF the rudder was hard over prior to losing power they may nit have been able to straighten it out.


85 posted on 03/29/2024 11:22:59 AM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (Involuntarily subsidizing the parasite class since 1981)
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To: John S Mosby
So says MSN deriving from NTSB. We will not hear from the Pilot(s), until official hearing for facts. This is ear droppings from some NTSB person... a Ms. somebody. Sorry, you’ll have to force me to Trump Bond that payment, as a bigger question is why this bridge had never been fortified against collision as, say the Sunshine State bridge was in FL. That accident was with a phosphate ship losing control in a gale common to the waters there. A tragedy that took out a Greyhound bus with passengers.

The FSK bridge opened in 1977. The Sunshine Skyway Bridge allision was in 1980.

86 posted on 03/29/2024 12:34:21 PM PDT by FDNYRHEROES
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To: BobL

Yes. I tried to replace the brakes on my wife’s car this morning and the new pads wouldn’t fit. It says “made in China” on the pads but that’s just how Mossad works!


87 posted on 03/30/2024 1:13:59 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: FDNYRHEROES

referring to the rebuild of Sunshine Skyway bridge. Rebuilt with hardened pylon barriers/bollards on each side of the main centerline of the bridge- the crossunder portion used by major ships. In any case-all of our major port bridges should have been hardened ever since 9-11. Notwithstanding potential harbor blockage by sinking,which btw was a secondary goal of the jap empire to obstruct the channel in Pearl Harbor in 1941- not a new idea iow.


88 posted on 04/01/2024 10:13:24 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: nuconvert

I understand these ship Black boxes are very basic. Probably little to be learned. I’m more interested in reports that it had electrical issues that were supposedly repaired in port.


89 posted on 04/01/2024 10:16:21 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: V_TWIN
I’m certainly no expert in ship navigation but I suspect “minutes” is hardly enough time for a tug to gain control of a 1000 foot fully loaded cargo ship.

Yep, and they typically don't have top speeds of 100 knots/hour so they could cross the bay and reach the ship in seconds.

90 posted on 04/01/2024 10:17:42 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
This engineer describes the Steering system and the Emergency Diesel Generator setup on his ship and what should happen in the event that the ship should lose power.

Granted this isn’t the Dali but it is typical of setup .

Dali size containership steering system. How it’s designed to not hit Francis Scott key bridge

I am beginning to suspect that the Dali’s Emergency Diesels never successfully lit off.

91 posted on 04/01/2024 10:25:14 AM PDT by OldHarbor
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To: OldHarbor

emergency rudder system takes 30 seconds to fire up. The Baltimore ship looks like it lost power inside the 30 second window based on the video. What’s weird is that the ship looked out of position as it aimed towards the channel, too narrow a path and thus no time to recover ?


92 posted on 04/01/2024 10:37:40 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: nobody in particular
So, we have this info post d here, but the ntsb still needs another cupla years to figure out what happened.

YEARS!!

93 posted on 04/01/2024 10:52:08 AM PDT by SGCOS (not vaccinated for covid and never will be. the vax is a killer.)
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