Patrick J. Buchanan: Mideast peace an illusion?

WorldNetDaily ^ | Tuesday, November 20, 2001 | Patrick J. Buchanan

[ouroboros]

[ouroboros]

bump

[PRND21]

and find they are on a political Highway of Death.

You ought to know, Mr. WND cub reporter.
Has any former candidate fallen so far so fast?

[mafree]

Pat Buchanan bump.

[brat]

BTTT Of course Mideast peace is an illusion. Bible Prophecy predicts that the Anti-Christ will usher in a Mideast peace-it lasts 31/2 years! Pat is right, as usual.

[brat]

Pat was on Fox News tonight, and they were talking about immigration policies. Some were tearing into him! He got angry and said: "IT'S OUR HOME! IT'S NOT SOME JOB FAIR FOR CORPORATIONS SO THEY CAN HIRE CHEAP LABOR! IT'S OUR HOME! Bravo Pat!

[truth_seeker]

There is that phrase again "Amen corner." Pat would reward terrorists. He is right on immigration, wrong on this issue.

I say if Israel must, take another 50 miles as a wider perimeter, as a pre-emptive move for their own security. Arafat had his chance, and refused it. Palestinians are terrorists, and will not stop if given a state.

[shuckmaster]

Where have you gone, Gen. Eisenhower?

During the Eisenhower regime, Ezra Taft Benson, his appointee to to secretary of agriculture, enacted federal programs that led directly to over 1,000,000 Southerners being displaced from their farms.

[mmmmmmmm....... donuts]

So let me get this straight...

More important, with this latest intifada marked by massacres of children at pizza parlors, Israelis no longer believe security can be found cheek-by-jowl with an Arafat-led Palestinian state. Who can blame them?

And then he rants about the Israeli lobby? So he RECOGNIZES that Arafat wants to destroy Israel, but he complains that the U.S. won't let him!! What nerve!

[Patria One]

"When Israeli and U.S. policies clash, it is U.S. presidents who back down. For 30 years, the United States has held that settlements in the territories occupied in the 1967 war were "illegal" and impediments to peace. Yet, despite $100 billion in U.S. aid to Israel since 1972 – $20,000 for every Israeli – the number of settlers has risen from 8,400 to 357,000. Israel ignores U.S. pleas and demands, for it knows they are bluster and bluff, designed for Arab consumption."

(The real estate developers of the West Bank settlements are Americans)

[11th Earl of Mar]

Pat's simple solution to everything- blame the Jews.

[bimbo]

During the Eisenhower regime, Ezra Taft Benson, his appointee to to secretary of agriculture, enacted federal programs that led directly to over 1,000,000 Southerners being displaced from their farms.

Source? ... Explanation? ... the Sec. Agriculture enacted programs?

[bimbo]

"IT'S OUR HOME! IT'S NOT SOME JOB FAIR FOR CORPORATIONS SO THEY CAN HIRE CHEAP LABOR! IT'S OUR HOME!

The truth does not spawn many corporate contributions to political campaigns - but it is still the TRUTH!

[Utopia]

I'm with you.
I think Buchanan is about as relevant as x42.

[ImpBill]

Pat's message, at times, rings with truth. Fortunately Pat as the messenger has long since been eclipsed by Pat the person. He has, by his own hand and mouth, moved his possible impact on the body politic to complete irrelevancy.

[babble-on]

Not only offensive, but wrong on every dimension. For one thing, Israel is a democracy. That means if "land for peace" deals with Arafat were a credible concept, the Israeli people could elect a government to conduct them. Its not a question of Barak dying and a new Pasha taking over. H got voted out of office after Arafat said NO to 98% of the occupied territories, half of Jerusalem, additional land to make up for the 2% he lacked. Plus handover of the settlements, MILITARY ASSISTANCE for God's sake, untold billions of US foreign aid from Clinton. Arafat says NO to this. Why? Because he would have been murdered by Hamas. What the Israeli doves learned last year, was that Arafat cannot deliver the "peace" part of this deal. The offer is still there of course. Sharon says he'll start talks as soon as 7 days go by without a terrorist attack on Israelis. So far there has been no hiatus.

I also think that there is more behind the US commitment to Israel than campaign donations from Jewish Americans. For one thing, we would be much further behind on this war on terror than we are without Israeli intelligence. It is nice to have one reliable stable democracy in the MidEast. The Saudis won't be around much longer. Egypt has returned to a barely managed autocracy with a basket case economy. Turkey lurches from crisis to crisis. Kuwait? Oman? Jordan? OK, Pat go have fun with your friends.

[Patria One]

Benson was a Mormon born in 1899. In 1952 President Dwight David Eisenhower appointed Benson to the cabinet post of Secretary of Agriculture. Partly because of his vigorous espousal of free enterprise, he was never the most popular person in the cabinet. Still he was known for being fair, just, and a man of principle.

He was featured on the covers of Time magazine and The Saturday Evening Post, he and his family were guests on Edward R. Murrow's television show, "Person to Person." Believing that "no real American wants to be subsidized," he urged flexible price supports for agricultural products and called on America's farmers to stand on their own feet. Surprising critics, he survived a full eight years in the cabinet before retiring once more to home and church duties.

Passionately opposed to communism, Benson denounced all forms of tyranny and compulsion. He spoke out frequently advocating conservative positions and themes, and was mentioned as a possible presidential or vice presidential candidate. On one occasion he outlined his own political creed in the following words: "I am for freedom and against slavery. I am for social progress and against socialism. I am for a dynamic economy and against waste. I am for the private competitive market and against unnecessary governmental intervention. I am for national security and against appeasement and capitulation to an obvious enemy."

In 1973 Benson was set apart as president of the Council of the Twelve Apostles. He worked to streamline church politics.

[sakic]

I'm shocked to see Pat B. come down on the side of an issue that runs against Israel. One more time and he'll have done so 1,000 times in a row. Combined with his quotes regarding Jews and Nazis he sure is a consistent sort.

And yet when he's accused of being anti-Jew and anti-Israel he's defended by some who say "Show me the proof". Even odder is the fact that those demanding the proof usually land on the very same sides of the very same issues.

In a time when the avowed enemies of Israel are the avowed enemies of the United States (you may recall the WTC incident) there are still some that support our enemies. Most ironically of all, they call themselves patriots and accuse the rest of us of being un-patriotic.

[SusanUSA]

I saw that, did my heart good to hear it! But wasn't it Sunday night?