Kensington Rune Stone

myself | 1-9-02 | myself

[crystalk]

For a slow, cold, day in a Minnesota winter, especially if one's ancestors were Scandinavian.

[Bikers4Bush]

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[Focault's Pendulum]

That was a very interesting read, however I wish you hadn't posted it,
because now I'm gonna have trouble selling my Piltdown Man on E Bay.

[Spruce]

For a slow, cold, day in a Minnesota...
Actually, she's pretty nice out der about now doncha know.

[silmaril]

....only the ignorant still deny that Norsemen had been all over the interior of North America, New Mexico, Colorado, most of Canada, even Oklahoma, for centuries and even millennia prior to 1362.

Is the author being serious?

[Tribune7]

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[d4now]

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[Aristophanes]

Yep, he's serious. Check out the famous Heavener Runestone (Southeastern Oklahoma). Go here

[truth_seeker]

For a slow, cold, day in a Minnesota winter, especially if one's ancestors were Scandinavian.

Ya, ya. Not bad, for a "dumb swede." Still wondering, over 100 years later. Not bad, he..he. Nils and Anders.

[Redcloak]

This page may be of interest to you. An analysis of the stone's core versus the runes' surfaces suggests that the stone spent a long period of time buried. Geologists compared the amount of mica degradation inside the stone to degradation in the runes and on the dressed surfaces. They show a lot of degradation which wouldn't be the case if the runes were recently carved.

[babble-on]

this stuff is just amazing. bump and thanks.

[crystalk]

An author, Anderson by name, in Chicago some 60 years ago claimed to have discoved a code (skips) in the runes something like the now-famed Bible codes, according to which the name of the carver is given and the date (1362 repeated) and in which the "22 Norsemen and 8 Swedes" said to be on the trip, were said to be a code for the fact that in crossing the continent they had encountered 22 hundred miles of mountains (like Norway) and 8 hundred miles of marshy flattish forests (like Sweden)...these were publised works...

[danneskjold]

bfl...

[Aristophanes]

You're very welcome; I think this stuff is way cool.

My interest began when I visited the Heavener stone while on a trip as a teenager. Back in those days (mid 70's) you could go right up and touch the stone in person. Now, so I'm told, it's encased in some sort of glass contraption which prevents close analysis by the general public. :(

What is not mentioned here is that there was at least one more similar stone found in the hills adjacent to the Arkansas River, in the Tulsa vicinity. Tulsa is about 150 miles to the north of Heavener. The location of these stones, according to the newspaper article I read at the time (ca. 1980) was kept secret to prevent vandals from damaging them. Apparently they're too big to move easily.

The thought is that these same Viking explorers were traveling up the Arkansas sometime around 800 A.D.

Cool stuff.

[babble-on]

Its very "Lord of the Rings"-ish to imagine these guys journeying these distances. To what end? rape and pillage? looking for food? gold? rings of power?

[Little Bill]

One of the problems of new world history is the 19th century bias against precolumbian European discovery. I read the book, the author makes a good arguement.

I also believe that the Europeans, us mainly, hit the beach a long time ago, well before Columbus. The similarity between Clovis points and European points are to close to argue.

[crystalk]

They were on an updagelsy-fard, just to see what was beyond the next hill, over the next river...So very Nordic, so white of them, no other race would ever do THAT...

[crystalk]

More crystalkery aka trash.

[Citizen of the Savage Nation]

The world was a warmer place back then, we know that now. we also know that the vikings were well travelled and made an attempt to sack Constantinople, and made it well into the Ukraine.

These guys loved their boats and were excellent seamen. None of this is far-fetched.

[Sid Rich]

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