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Ban on the Display of Aborted Fetus Signs (Need help in Wisconsin, please FREEP this poll)
WISCTV3 ^ | January 15, 2002

Posted on 01/15/2002 7:29:08 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus

MONROE, Wis. -- An abortion opponent who publicizes his protests with large scale pictures of aborted fetuses said he's ready to continue his fight against Monroe if the city adopts another sign ordinance.

The Common Council will hold a public hearing tonight on a second try at a sign ordinance.

The first one it adopted was declared unconstitutional after Pastor Ralph Ovadal (pictured last summer at a Mazomanie nude beach protest) and Christ the King Church challenged it.

The previous ordinance restricted the signs to 3 square feet, except for business signs.

Ovadal and his followers had taken their large signs to the city's business square where Planned Parenthood has an office.

City officials agreed to repeal the first ordinance and dismiss citations against Ovadal and his group to settle the federal lawsuit.

Ovadal says the new sign proposal is simply the old one dusted off.

Ovadal and other church members were cited earlier last year for placing literature on parked cars in Monroe that was critical of Congresswoman Tammy Baldwin and for displaying signs in a grassy area along side Highway 69 in Monroe.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortionlist; prolife
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To: supercat
I had a much different experience at the Holocaust Memorial. The only difference between the pictures of the death camps and these abortion posters was color photography and the condition of the corpses. In both cases, the pictures are used to prevent the revisionists from denying the humanity of the victims or the fact that they were murdered. I know of no less disturbing way of definitively communicating this message.

How about a 'matter-of-fact' photograph of a medical waste bag full of dismembered unborn children taken from an abortion facility dumpster? Some of these abortion photos were actual taken by the abortionists themselves to reduce their medical malpractice liability. Apparently the body of the child sometimes needs to be reassembled after it's removal to make sure all of the "pieces" have been removed from the womb. It doesn't get any more 'matter-of-fact' than that.

101 posted on 01/16/2002 4:21:01 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
Ovadal and his followers had taken their large signs to the city's business square where Planned Parenthood has an office.

Maybe they should hold up a mirror instead.

102 posted on 01/16/2002 4:24:32 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
Apparently the body of the child sometimes needs to be reassembled after it's removal to make sure all of the "pieces" have been removed from the womb.

That is the case in all D & C abortions. The baby's body is usually reassembled on a table to make sure that no body parts are left inside which could lead to infection.

And apparently these people sleep at night.

103 posted on 01/16/2002 4:28:10 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
Freeped and bumped!

Leni

104 posted on 01/16/2002 4:31:57 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
I'm sorry to hear that you won't support the legality this kind of "unpleasant" political speech. Many people like you felt the same way about that seditious Declaration of Independence. Many thought that it was too offensive and would ultimately be counter-productive. They were cowards.

I never said I didn't support the legality of it. Your characterization of anyone who doesn't support the wisdom of it as a coward is offensive.

But that's in keeping with your whole approach to the issue, isn't it? Win people to your side by being offensive. Charming.

105 posted on 01/16/2002 4:35:41 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
52% yes to 48% no Bump
106 posted on 01/16/2002 4:42:21 AM PST by dpa5923
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To: Brad's Gramma
Just voted (7:45am 1/16/02 CST)

659 votes cast

52%.....Yes

48%.....No

YES!

107 posted on 01/16/2002 4:47:38 AM PST by EODGUY
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To: Verax
There's nothing disgusting about an aborted fetus.

Why, of course not, darling.

It's simply a dead body, dead as a result of a conscious decision made by a person that was too irresponsible to conduct themselves in a manner which would not have resulted in it being a dead body in the first place, had they not been irresponsible.

That dead body, which incidently, is a dead human body, had no choice either way.

But again, it's not disgusting. It is, after all, a human being, a human body, one that was not given a chance to decide his/her own fate, but one that had a callous, irresponsible, immature person, decide their fate for them.

No, darling, it's not disgusting. No murdered human is disgusting.

Don't see the difference between murdered and perhaps executed? Then get out your Funky Wagnalls, darling, 'cause you are flying blind.

Abortion is the murder of a person that had no choice in the matter. You may insist upon your choice, your constitutional rights, but if turnabout is fair play, then may I insist upon mine, to simply end your life, as you are an inconvenience?

Isn't that what it boils down to? That life growing in your body, it's just an inconvenience.

The disgusting thing here is not the pictures of the aborted babies, but the attitude of someone such as yourself.

You have no conscience. I suspect you have no soul, either.

108 posted on 01/16/2002 4:48:08 AM PST by OldSmaj
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
Freeped and bumped!

What has our country come to when we take polls to see if people's constitutional rights should be respected. :-(

109 posted on 01/16/2002 5:02:08 AM PST by Aunt Polgara
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To: Dog Gone
#24 The difference between you and me is that you're pro-life only IF it doesn't offend anybody...

now, that's what I call disgusting!

110 posted on 01/16/2002 5:21:15 AM PST by Verax
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To: OldSmaj
#108...sorry, think you missed my sarcasm in #21
111 posted on 01/16/2002 5:24:58 AM PST by Verax
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
53%yes
112 posted on 01/16/2002 5:30:07 AM PST by gnarledmaw
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To: Verax
The difference between you and me is that you're pro-life only IF it doesn't offend anybody...

Wrong. The difference between you and me is that you think offending people is an effective tactic. I don't.

The fact that you find that disgusting is ironic, to say the least.

113 posted on 01/16/2002 5:32:51 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
The margin is too thin. Come on people vote yes!
114 posted on 01/16/2002 7:10:18 AM PST by Khepera
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
For what it's worth: Tammy Baldwin is the openly lesbian Congresswoman representing a district that includes a portion of the People's Republic of Madison and some small, conservative rural communities like Monroe. Heaven forbid that the decent, conservative people in her district be allowed to protest the inhuman acts of the liberal left.

If a large sign supporting gay rights or condemming school vouchers went up Tammy would be championing the right to free-speech.

115 posted on 01/16/2002 7:23:37 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Brad's Gramma
Done. Nothing like the power of a picture in your face. Not too easy to look at for ANYONE, but less uncomfortable than the reality of the magnitude of abortion. So keep it up, IMHO.
116 posted on 01/16/2002 8:56:14 AM PST by marylina
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To: Khepera
Well, lookie there.....the poll's still up. I agree, it's too close. VOTE!

And someone smarter than I, please, post this to the abortion lists.

117 posted on 01/16/2002 2:26:36 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Khepera; Senator_Blutarski;Aunt Polgara;OldSmaj;Ronaldus Magnus;marylina;Dr. Good Will Hunting
The polls still up if anyone's interested....
118 posted on 01/16/2002 8:18:00 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Dog Gone;Aunt Polgara;Dr. Good Will Hunting;mdittmar
I think the use of photos of aborted fetuses is offensive and probably counter-productive. Nobody wants to see them, and most wish the people who put them up would go away forever.
One picture is worth a thousand words.


119 posted on 01/16/2002 9:13:41 PM PST by Texas Gal
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
It doesn't get any more 'matter-of-fact' than that.

I guess for me one of the scary things the Holocaust Museum showed was the ease with which millions of people could be swept under the rug. I would posit that an ad which showed an ultrasound of a fetus followed by the sight of some blood and indistinct ground-up gore running down a drain would be more horrifying than the type of graphic ads discussed here.

On a related note, compare the shower scene in Hitchcock's Psycho with scenes from more recent slasher flicks. The latter are far more graphic, and yet the former is far more effectively horrifying.

120 posted on 01/16/2002 9:45:51 PM PST by supercat
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