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To: Poohbah
It would be pretty simple to find out, wouldn't it? All that it would take is a ruling from the Supreme Court. So tell me. Why hasn't Mr. Davis appealed it? Why was Bustamante so terrified of it?

The federal government never made any law regarding the provision of citizen benefits in the case of compulsory schooling, precisely because it was considered to be a state issue. The only federal "law" that applied was one Supreme Court decision - Plyler. And as I've pointed out, the current Chief Justice of the Supreme Court led the dissenters in a 5-4 decision by pointing out that the majority was engaging in law making, not law interpretation. Read the decision yourself. You can read it on-line. Then report back to everyone here why Mr. Justice Brennan is right and Justices Burger, Rehnquist, O'Connor, and White are wrong. You can find it here: Plyler V. Doe

And then explain to me why the citizens of a foreign nation have the right to decide that they will be the beneficiaries of my labor, and not me. Or why they have a right to come among us without our leave.

22 posted on 02/11/2002 3:32:00 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Regulator
It would be pretty simple to find out, wouldn't it? All that it would take is a ruling from the Supreme Court. So tell me. Why hasn't Mr. Davis appealed it? Why was Bustamante so terrified of it?

It's called "not taking any chances." They are opposed to Proposition 187; Davis, Bustamante, and Lockyer are vested with the authority to engage OR NOT ENGAGE in lawsuits to uphold ballot propositions. They used that discretion to make SURE the issue wouldn't come up during their terms. If you don't like that, then write a ballot proposition requiring that the state of California vigorously defend ALL ballot propositions--but that would also require a conservative governor to defend and uphold some of the liberal looniness that gets put through, as well.

And then explain to me why the citizens of a foreign nation have the right to decide that they will be the beneficiaries of my labor, and not me. Or why they have a right to come among us without our leave.

I never argued that--you are merely saying that I did. Please enunciate, IN DETAIL, exactly why I should respond to false charges from you.

Proposition 187 was on constitutionally shaky ground to begin with, because immigration is a federal issue, not a state issue.

We then had the spectacle of Pete Wilson--a man not known for giving an airborne improper relationship about illegal immigration during his time as mayor of San Diego or Senator from California, and he hadn't shown any sign of being interested in 1991-1993 when he became governor--suddenly discovering nativist impulses, just in time for a reelection bid AND a Presidential campaign foray. (Kinda like Hillary suddenly discovering she was REALLY a Yankees fan growing up in Chicago during the Senate race in New Yawk.)

If we'd had the testicular fortitude to pitch Wilson out during the 1994 primary and nominate Ron Unz, and to stay away from an unneeded fight on Proposition 187, Gray Davis would be known only as Moonbeam's former chief of staff. Instead, we woke the slumbering Hispanic electorate with a commercial campaign that didn't discuss illegal immigration, it just screamed "BROWN PEOPLE DOUBLEPLUSBAD!"

26 posted on 02/11/2002 5:28:12 PM PST by Poohbah
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