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An Airline Passenger's Bill of Rights
travelAgent

Posted on 03/19/2002 7:00:57 AM PST by travelagent

Hope this works, first time poster. You are all probably aware that US carriers are going to zero commission for travel agents. I ask you to consider the following:

This is nothing more than and increase to the traveling public as travel agents have no choice but to charge $35-$50 to passengers for issuing airline tickets.

Could it be that the airlines want to kill a business that has successfully served the traveling public for many years and supports the communities in which they work and live? Or could it be that the airlines want to take out the only advocate the public has.

Why would someone pay that to a travel agent?

First because we truly do know where the best savings are and will always offer options. Travel agents provide a valuable service to millions of American citizens who travel, both in offering advice and counsel during the purchasing phase of travel planning, but also in servicing travelers whose trips have been interrupted due to weather, airline flight interruption, family emergencies, and especially in the event of a national emergency similar to that which occurred September 11, 2001. No inanimate airline website nor even the thousands of airline reservations agents, many of whom have since been laid off, could service the tens of thousands of stranded travelers who were suddenly impacted by the events of September 11, 2001.

By the way if you were traveling during the Sept. 11th time frame and you called the airline you were booked on you would have heard a recording suggesting you call a travel agent, they can't handle servicing the public!

Without a travel agent to keep the airlines honest passengers will only pay higher prices in the end. Don't kid yourselves, that is the game plan.

The DOJ needs to get some real pressure applied to them regarding the practices of US airlines. The system is broke and no amount of taxpayer money is gonna save them.

I could go on and on but am curious if any Freeper's see the picture here and are willing to step up to the plate and demand that this back end increase to passengers be stopped and demand that our tax dollars stop feeding tha airlines.


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1 posted on 03/19/2002 7:00:57 AM PST by travelagent
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To: travelagent
How many people are going to want to go through full body scanners at the airport? Have travel agents lobbied against the increased government intrusion on our persons and belongings ? That's what's keeping me from traveling.
2 posted on 03/19/2002 7:04:42 AM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: travelagent
Good post. I heard this on the radio yesterday. I wouldn't have given the airlines a penny.
3 posted on 03/19/2002 7:06:23 AM PST by 4CJ
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To: DLfromthedesert
Agreed, and keep in mine that the gov. is now paying for the security not the airlines. Again I state, the system is broken and needs to be overhauled asap.
4 posted on 03/19/2002 7:07:06 AM PST by travelagent
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To: travelagent
You are definitely up against the big guns--the airlines. Tiny Tommy Dasshole's wife is their lobbyist and look at the 9-11 bailout they got. Good luck is all I can say...
5 posted on 03/19/2002 7:07:22 AM PST by eureka!
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To: 4ConservativeJustices
So do we have any Freepers willing to start Freeping Congress?
6 posted on 03/19/2002 7:08:35 AM PST by travelagent
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To: travelagent
Like the extinction of the horse and buggy builders, if you are a travel agent the internet is putting you out of business. With www.priceline.com and www.cheaptickets.com who needs a travel agent.
7 posted on 03/19/2002 7:09:16 AM PST by kellynla
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To: travelagent
PS. Simplification of the rates would help, it's a game to see who can scam the public - I have always used an agent. The airlines just want more of the pie - LESS competition equals HIGHER fares.
8 posted on 03/19/2002 7:09:18 AM PST by 4CJ
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To: kellynla
Wait until you have a problem and see how much assistance you get.
9 posted on 03/19/2002 7:10:50 AM PST by travelagent
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To: travelagent
I haven't used a travel agent in years, primarily because I like handling that kind of thing myself. I know my flexibility, and can make decisions on the spot. It is my hope that the elimination of commission payments to travel agents will allow the airlines to reduce costs for me.

If you, as you say, are providing a valuable service, you should have no qualms about charging fees to your customers. If they agree with your assessment, they'll pay.

I'm afraid your warnings about travel agents "keeping the airlines honest" is a particularly silly notion. Try to be honest yourself: Agents with deals with certain airlines have been known to withhold lower fare information on other airlines. I won't fault the industry for that, but I certainly am not going to cry in my beer for the middle man, which is what the travel agent is.

10 posted on 03/19/2002 7:12:09 AM PST by Mr. Bird
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Mainly airlines with super computers can expect to handle their own reservations. It is possible that they are searching for a way to put more of the ticket buying thru the internet on services like ORBITZ etc. It would cut down their need for in house employees and also reduce the cash flow to outsiders. Tough times make for tough choices. Survival is the name of the game.You can't keep selling $200 rides for $175 and pay an agent a commission to book it too.
11 posted on 03/19/2002 7:12:28 AM PST by Don Corleone
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To: travelagent
"Without a travel agent to keep the airlines honest passengers will only pay higher prices in the end. Don't kid yourselves, that is the game plan.

"The DOJ needs to get some real pressure applied to them regarding the practices of US airlines. The system is broke and no amount of taxpayer money is gonna save them."

I'm gonna have to disagree -- respectfully of course. If travel agents provide a valuble service, then people will pay for it. But travel agents are not an arm of the U.S. government, and the U.S. government has no business requiring airlines to subsidize them with commissions or in any other fashion.

What you seem to be advocating is government control of a patently private sector of the economy to benefit passengers. It looks good on paper, as it must have done in Italy and Germany in the 1930's. It didn't work then, and I, for one, wouldn't like to see it tried again.

12 posted on 03/19/2002 7:18:36 AM PST by OBAFGKM
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To: travelagent
Well, so far, the comments are typical of what you'd expect from self-reliant people...

They don't want to pay a middle-man for what they think they can do themselves.

Although your point of providing a service to people stranded -- as they were on 9/11 -- is valid, many FReepers appear to believe they can handle those problems on their own. In my limited 'business' travel experience -- I rarely accumulated more than 30 or 40 thousand miles per year over 7 years -- I was still able to take care of myself without the assistance of a travel agent.

Of course, this is all just MHO!


13 posted on 03/19/2002 7:20:25 AM PST by HiJinx
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To: travelagent
Anybody who trivializes something as precious as the Bill of Rights for something as silly as protectoinism for travel agents just pisses me off!

Everything is "Bill of Rights This" or "Such and Such Bill of Rights". Taxpayers, patients, telephone customers, poultry consumers, and now, travel agents. Meanwhile, the real Bill of Rights, the first ten amendments to the US Constitution, are being ignored by every level of the Federal Judiciary and Legislature. Read the Bill of Rights, and then read the "Patients Bill of Rights". The former fits on a page and spells out in succinct (if somewhat dated) language that basic freedoms of our system of government. The latter goes on for ten thousand pages, is fully understood by noone, and is mostly dedicated to taking those freedoms away. To have the name of one applied to the other is an obscenity.

Sorry travelagent, but this particular thing just frosts my mug. Call your protectionist scheme just about anything else and I will give you a hearing. Try to pass it off as anything remotely resembling the sacred Bill of Rights, and you will just earn my disdain.

14 posted on 03/19/2002 7:23:23 AM PST by gridlock
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To: travelagent
Stop flying. I did.

www.armedpassengers.com bump

15 posted on 03/19/2002 7:49:57 AM PST by Noumenon
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To: travelagent
This message brought to you by the Association of Travel Agents.
16 posted on 03/19/2002 8:09:15 AM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: gridlock
My My, guess that was a hot button for you. First of all I stated I am a new poster, I truly thought I was just adding my comment to a board that was already titled and begun. I did not mean to tile my comment passenger bill of right. With that being said I hope you will accept my apology as my intent was gto get a real discussion on my particular issue not on the Bill of Rights.
17 posted on 03/19/2002 8:59:28 AM PST by travelagent
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To: travelagent
Okee Dokee. If you will note, I apologized in advance for being a raving lunatic. I find that that is helpful to me in a wide variety of social situations...
18 posted on 03/19/2002 9:04:07 AM PST by gridlock
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To: OBAFGKM
Thank you for being polite :-) In truth I view airlines as a utility. My point is why should our tax dollars continue to support a business model that is clearly broken. If the airlines cannot control the dollars they have to work with why should the taxpayers continue to support it? I agree that if a traveler feels a travel agent provides a service they will pay a fee, some will, some won't. That is not part of my concern as the traveling public will indeed weigh in on the issue by either paying the fee or not. Bottom line is the airlines will raise their prices online and offline, you can count on it.
19 posted on 03/19/2002 9:06:28 AM PST by travelagent
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To: gridlock
Excellent-Now can you offer some thoughts to my issue as I truly could use some.
20 posted on 03/19/2002 9:08:08 AM PST by travelagent
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