[Fish out of Water]

index bump and fyi

[gcruse]

Abiogenesis is basically an attempt to explain the
origin of life while nullifying the possibility of a creator.

Well, that didn't take long.  You can
let me off here, driver.  If abiogenisis
is correct, there is no need to add the
extra layer of having a creator.  It
is not an attempt to repudiate creators,
tooth faeries, Santa Claus, or Tinkerbell.
If abiogenisis can be demonstrated, the
need to postulate primal chimera does not arise.

[jwalsh07]

Now, deep beneath these ice caps are hydrothermal vents where nutrients and organic material are constantly being pumped out by the active volcanism below

Orhanic material is life. Life plus nutrients begat life? Pretty circular, no?

[Raymond Hendrix]

The Blind Atheist

[Sabertooth]

(((ping))))

[Dimensio]

. Abiogenesis is basically an attempt to explain the origin of life while nullifying the possibility of a creator.

I disagree with this statement. Abiogenesis is an attempt to explain the origin of life without considering the possiblity of direct intervention in this origin by a "creator", however it would not nullify the possibility that a "creator" existed for steps leading up to abiogenesis (such as creation of the cosmos, formation of the planets, etc).

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

LETS SEE GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH IN 6 DAYS AND ON THE 7TH HE RESTED HMMMM YEP THAT BOUT SUMS IT UP THE REST IS HISTORY IN THE MAKING AND AN EXISTANCE WITHOUT A CREATOR !!!!

IS NOT AN OPTION

NUFF SAID

[MeekOneGOP]

Bump for morning review......
Thanks, folks!........

[jennyp]

The tide comes in and gently brings more material for life to form and gently meandering rivers add to the serenity. What a beautiful picture. Now let's take a quick glimpse of reality. The tidal lagoon idea NEEDS everything to be calm and gentle or else it will disrupt the material and carry it back to sea. What proclaimers of this hypothesis fail to recognize is what the early earth really would have been like. According to secular scientists, the moon was much closer to the earth than it is today. It caused the tides not to be gentle waves but raging tsunamis hundreds and even thousands of feet high that swept over the continents 2-3 times per day. Nothing like being pummeled by billions of gallons of water to break the serenity, huh? Already the chances of abiogenesis are being ruined and we've hardly begun!

I dunno if tidal lagoons really are proposed as a serious hypothesis, but this argument against them backfires badly. A 1000 foot tall tide would create tidal lagoons for miles & miles inland. It would create many more tidal lagoons than we'd ever think of seeing today!