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The late Charles A. Beard reported, "I cannot find a single original source that gives the slightest justification for believing that the Prophecy is anything more than a barefaced forgery. Not a word have I discovered in Franklin’s letters and papers expressing any such sentiments against the Jews as are ascribed to him by the Nazis.

His well-known liberality in matters of religious opinion would, in fact, have precluded the kind of utterances put in his mouth by this palpable forgery . . . In his writings on immigration, Franklin made no mention of discrimination against Jews."

The speech against the Jews which Benjamin Franklin is alleged to have made the Constitutional Convention of 1787 is a forgery, produced within the past five years [1933-38].

Beard also showed "positive evidence" that Franklin held Jews in high regard, citing the instance when the Hebrew Society of Philadelphia sought to raise money for a synagogue in Philadelphia. Franklin signed the petition of appeal for contributions to "citizens of every religious denomination" and gave 5 pounds himself to the fund.

J. Henry Smythe, Jr., compiler of The Amazing Benjamin Franklin, has characterized the Prophecy as "a counterfeit," adding it was a "libel of the Jewish race, unjust both to Jews and to the name and fame of Benjamin Franklin. I have investigated this calumny and find no historical basis."

For a history of this attribution visit:

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1 posted on 03/29/2002 6:33:34 AM PST by veronica
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To: dennisw, lent, sjackson, monkeyshine, agrace, laconas, boltfromblue, jimmyclyde, benf, nachum
FYI.
2 posted on 03/29/2002 6:35:49 AM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
Doesn't matter. The Arabs will lap this "black propaganda" up like it was cream. All they want is an excuse, any excuse...they can be animals that way...
3 posted on 03/29/2002 6:37:08 AM PST by WyldKard
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To: veronica
Hey V! What a day. What a last few days. Arafat compound is under seige. IDF is moving in doing room to room searches ...seizing weapons.

Go get him and his thugs Israel!

6 posted on 03/29/2002 6:39:50 AM PST by dennisw
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To: veronica
As far as General Washington was concverned, here's a bit of what he had to say in an exchange of letters (from http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/US-Israel/bigotry.html):

“To Bigotry No Sanction, to Persecution No Assistance”
George Washington's Letter to the Jews of Newport, Rhode Island (1790)

On August 17, 1790, Moses Seixas, the warden of Congregation Kahal Kadosh Yeshuat Israel, better known as the Hebrew Congregation of Newport, Rhode Island, penned an epistle to George Washington, welcoming the newly elected first president of the United States on his visit to that city.

Newport had suffered greatly during the Revolutionary War. Invaded and occupied by the British and blockaded by the American navy, hundreds of residents fled, and many of those who remained were Tories. After the British defeat, the Tories fled in turn. Newport’s nineteenth-century economy never recovered from these interruptions and dislocations.

Washington’s visit to Newport was largely ceremonial—part of a goodwill tour Washington was making on behalf of the new national government created by the adoption of the Constitution in 1787. Newport had historically been a good home to its Jewish residents, who numbered approximately 300 at the time of Washington’s visit. The Newport Christian community’s acceptance of Jewish worship was exemplary, although individual Jews such as Aaron Lopez and Isaac Elizer were unable to obtain full political equality as citizens of Rhode Island.

The Jews of Newport looked to the new national government, and particularly to the enlightened president of the United States, to remove the last of the barriers to religious liberty and civil equality confronting American Jewry.

Moses Seixas’s letter on behalf of the congregation--he described them as “the children of the Stock of Abraham”--expressed the Jewish community’s esteem for President Washington and joined “with our fellow citizens in welcoming [him] to New Port.” The congregation expressed its pleasure that the God of Israel, who had protected King David, had also protected General Washington, and that the same spirit which resided in the bosom of Daniel and allowed him to govern over the “Babylonish Empire” now rested upon Washington. While the rest of world Jewry lived under the rule of monarchs, potentates and despots, as American citizens the members of the congregation were part of a great experiment: a government “erected by the Majesty of the People,” to which they could look to ensure their “invaluable rights as free citizens.”

Seixas expressed his vision of an American government in words that have become a part of the national lexicon. He beheld in the United States “a Government which to bigotry gives no sanction, to persecution no assistance—but generously affording to All liberty of conscience, and immunities of citizenship: - deeming every one, of whatever nation, tongue or language equal parts of the great Governmental Machine: √ This so ample and extensive federal union whose basis is Philanthropy, mutual confidence, and public virtue, we cannot but acknowledge to be the work of the Great God, who ruleth the Armies of Heaven, and among the Inhabitants of the Earth, doing whatsoever seemeth [to Him] good.”

Seixas closed his letter to the president by asking God to send the “Angel who conducted our forefathers through the wilderness into the promised land [to] conduct [Washington] through all the difficulties and dangers of this mortal life.” He told Washington of his hope that “when like Joshua full of days, and full of honour, you are gathered to your Fathers, may you be admitted into the Heavenly Paradise to partake of the water of life, and the tree of immortality.”

Not surprisingly, it is Washington’s response, rather than Seixas’s epistle, which is best remembered and most frequently reprinted. Washington began by thanking the congregation for its good wishes and rejoicing that the days of hardship caused by the war were replaced by days of prosperity. Washington then borrowed ideas--and actual words--directly from Seixas’s letter:

The Citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud themselves for giving to Mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy: a policy worthy of imitation. All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship. It is now no more that toleration is spoken of, as if it was by the indulgence of one class of people that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights. For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection, should demean themselves as good citizens.

Washington’s concluding paragraph perfectly expresses the ideal relationship among the government, its individual citizens and religious groups:

May the Children of the Stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other Inhabitants; while every one shall sit under his own vine and fig tree, and there shall be none to make him afraid.

Washington closed with an invocation: “May the father of all mercies scatter light and not darkness in our paths, and make us all in our several vocations useful here, and in his own due time and way everlastingly happy.”

The letter, a foundation stone of American religious liberty and the principle of separation between church and state, is signed, simply, “G. Washington.” Each year, Newport’s Congregation Kahal Kadosh Yeshuat Israel, now known as the Touro Synagogue, re-reads Washington’s letter in a public ceremony. The words deserve repetition.

11 posted on 03/29/2002 6:54:03 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: veronica
This old legend is still believed by many in this country today. I remember C-Span did a show on Franklin last year and a caller asked if this was indeed true.
13 posted on 03/29/2002 7:05:30 AM PST by Clemenza
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To: veronica
Thanks for this thread. I find it hard to believe that Franklin would have said such things. By the way, wasn't Franklin an agnostic?

Don't get me wrong here. I think very highly of Franklin. It's just that this propaganda says he touted Christianity upon which this nation was founded, yet I have read somewhere that he was not especially religious.

17 posted on 03/29/2002 7:23:44 AM PST by rdb3
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To: veronica
Hey Veronica:

Do you really believe this BS? (Personally I doubt it. If you were that stupid you could not turn on your computer.)

Were you posting this to show how good the Arabs are at dragging up old, disproven propaganda? (If so, thanks. It helps to know just how low your enemy really is.)

Or are you a paid PR hack, spreading rumors you care nothing about either way? (If so, I pity the sorry state of your soul.)

19 posted on 03/29/2002 7:27:29 AM PST by EternalHope
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To: veronica
Franklin was friends with and a follower of such "dissenting" protestant ministers as Richard Price,Theophilus Lindsey and Joseph Priestly (with whom Franklin worked to open the first Unitarian churches in the Philadelphia area). Their antitrinitarian movement was very Old Testament in outlook. Reason and good works trumped revelation and grace. That any of them would denigrate Jews is unthinkable. As nonsensical as the recent allegations that Billy Graham hates all Jews.
20 posted on 03/29/2002 7:32:40 AM PST by LarryLied
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To: veronica
Whoops! Major screw-up.

I missread a line and thought you were presenting this old lie as the truth. MY APOLOGIES!

21 posted on 03/29/2002 7:35:10 AM PST by EternalHope
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To: veronica
Thanks for the ping.

It's comforting to know that it's a forgery. But still too many people think it's real. That anyone would do such a thing is beyond me. The world is changing for the batter. More and more people see who the real evil ones are. At this time, the IDF is stampeding on them!

25 posted on 03/29/2002 7:37:15 AM PST by knighthawk
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To: veronica
His opinion was also shared by George Washington

The same George Washington? Who wrote:

To the Hebrew Congregation in Newport Rhode Island

Gentlemen:

While I receive with much satisfaction, your Address replete with expressions of affection and esteem, I rejoice in the opportunity of answering you, that I shall always retain a grateful remembrance of the cordial welcome I experienced in my visit to New port, from all classes of Citizens.

The reflection on the days of difficulty and danger which are past, is rendered the more sweet, from a consciousness that they are succeeded by days of uncommon prosperity and security. If we have wisdom to make the best use of the advantages with which we are now favored, we cannot fail, under the just administration of a good Government, to become a great and a happy people.

The Citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud themselves for having given to mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy: a policy worthy of imitation. All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship. It is now no more that toleration is spoken of, as if it was by the indulgence of one class of people, that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights. For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection, should demean themselves as good citizens, in giving it on all occasions their effectual support.

It would be inconsistent with the frankness of my character not to avow that I am pleased with your favorable opinion of my administration, and fervent wishes for my felicity. May the Children of the Stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other inhabitants, while every one shall sit in safety under his own wine and fig tree, and there shall be none to make him afraid. May the father of all mercies scatter light and not darkness in our paths, and make us all in our several vocations useful here, and in his own due time and way everlastingly happy.

George Washington Letter to the Touro Synagogue, 1790


31 posted on 03/29/2002 9:19:06 AM PST by Sabramerican
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To: veronica

33 posted on 03/29/2002 10:46:59 AM PST by meandog
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