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Catholic Church said to be struggling to keep homosexuals out
Yahoo News ^ | April 23, 2002

Posted on 04/23/2002 11:50:04 AM PDT by history_matters

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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Ditto.
141 posted on 04/23/2002 7:50:18 PM PDT by history_matters
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To: Angelique
I can understand the outrage about the homosexual priests. I can't understand the lack of outrage over NAMBLA and the sex, violence and corruption we see everyday on TV and in real life for that matter. Its seems like a double standard when people bash the Boy Scouts for not allowing gay scout leaders, then swell up in righteous indignation over these priests. What do people think is going to happen when kids are raised to believe that homosexuality is normal behavior? Its not going to make it a better world, its going to make it a trashier world.
142 posted on 04/23/2002 7:51:18 PM PDT by virgil
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity;history_matters
I saw that! It was hilarious! Bill Donohue was just classic!

"Hey, you with the earrings!"

And then he actually pointed out that one of the molesters was associated with "Dignity."

I was ROTFL.

143 posted on 04/23/2002 7:54:48 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
"Those who insist that Athena does not exist usually have a reason for wishing She didn't." -- me
144 posted on 04/23/2002 7:59:26 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: B Knotts
They are rather hideous. "Not-ready-for-primetime" liberals. Sr. Maureen looks like she could be possessed. Any exorcists around?
145 posted on 04/23/2002 8:01:05 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: jlogajan
From your profile page:

One of those darn Libertarians. Oh, yeah, an atheist too. Makes me real popular around here, ehy? ha ha. Well, just don't try to jam secular or religious socialism down my throat (via the state) and we'll get along just fine. :-)

And what about Homophobes?

You use this word a lot. Most FReepers are conservatives. They generally do not use this pejorative word. On another thread, you attacked and belittled pro-lifers. You are a self professed atheist and libertarian, you use liberal phraseology, and call conservatives homophobes.

Thus, I also suspect your orientation and your overall agenda here on FR.

Are you gay?

I don't expect an honest answer but you spew your homosexual and pro-abort agenda all over this "Conservative News Forum" and your propaganda fits the gay mold.

Feel free to call me a judgemental religionist homophobe...

146 posted on 04/23/2002 8:15:07 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: right_to_defend
Would they rather have heterosexual men? If so, why? You mean normal men?
147 posted on 04/23/2002 8:16:48 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
spew your homosexual and pro-abort agenda all over this "Conservative News Forum"

As hard as it may be for you to understand and believe, there are many conservatives who are not of your religious beliefs. SHOCKING!!!!

148 posted on 04/23/2002 8:18:32 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: virgil;ed reform;ppaul; history_matters
It is very sad that the public schools teach tolerance of a gay lifestyle. The Catholic Church is so wrong to consider even a word uttered by Cardinal Law, who promotes pedophilia--a step into the gay world.
149 posted on 04/23/2002 8:19:06 PM PDT by Angelique
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To: tet68
Who is kidding who? The Church grows their own!

I know a "gay" man , he told me he wasn't gay until he entered a monastery as a teen to study to be a priest.

Oh? I though the party line was that homosexuality is genetic, like having brown skin? Are you admitting that you guys need to recruit?

150 posted on 04/23/2002 8:19:44 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Richard McBrien is scheduled as a guest on CNBC with Brian Williams (now). I don't get it. Please tell us what the SOB said.
151 posted on 04/23/2002 8:22:16 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
On another thread, you attacked and belittled pro-lifers.

Actually, I am tolerant of pro-life beliefs -- I just disagree with them. However they, such as yourself, claim medical issues which aren't evident in the statistics. For instance I pointed out a couple of studies which debunked your abortion-breast cancer link. In another I showed that there doesn't seem to be a correlation between the introduction of legal abortion and female suicide ratios (there was an increase, but the male suicide increase was greater, pointing to societal rather than physical causes.)

That's debunking, not belittling.

152 posted on 04/23/2002 8:22:46 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: jlogajan
Any "Conservative" political movement in America must be animated by a continual reference to, and analysis of, the intersection between faith and politics.

"Conservatism" needs definition on a forum like this:

Main Entry: con·ser·va·tism
Pronunciation: k&n-'s&r-v&-"ti-z&m
Function: noun
Date: 1835
1 capitalized a : the principles and policies of a Conservative party b : the Conservative party
2 a : disposition in politics to preserve what is established b : a political philosophy based on tradition and social stability, stressing established institutions, and preferring gradual development to abrupt change
3 : the tendency to prefer an existing or traditional situation to change

A political philosophy based on tradition and social stability, stressing established institutions in America is, by definition, based on Judeo-Christian tradition and social stability.

Therefore, I do not shy away from calling those self proclaimed conservatives here on FreeRepublic.com "A Conservative News Forum" back to the very roots of that "Conservatism, " namely Judeo-Christian principles and belief. Christianity is integral to the continuance of Conservatism in America and thus The Necessity for Christianity on Free Republic.

153 posted on 04/23/2002 8:24:47 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
call conservatives homophobes

I call homophobes homophobes. The word is in the dictionary and it has a specific meaning. Look it up.

154 posted on 04/23/2002 8:24:54 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: history_matters
Don't ask, don't tell?


155 posted on 04/23/2002 8:29:27 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Any "Conservative" political movement in America must be animated by a continual reference to, and analysis of, the intersection between faith and politics.

Geez, even Bill Buckley realized 40 years ago that religionists would have to welcome non-religionists into the limited government cause.

That is, after all, what "conservatism" used to be -- small government -- let people free to do as they wished. It is socialism that has the grand plan for everybody. Unfortunately "cultural conservatism" is sort of a religious socialism come to hijack political conservatism.

156 posted on 04/23/2002 8:30:39 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: jlogajan
For instance I pointed out a couple of studies which debunked your abortion-breast cancer link.

Nonsense. A couple of studies does not debunk the fact that 28 of 37 studies to date show a positive correlation. Your estimation of your debunking ability is not objective.

In another I showed that there doesn't seem to be a correlation between the introduction of legal abortion and female suicide ratios (there was an increase, but the male suicide increase was greater, pointing to societal rather than physical causes.)

More nonsense. Read the overall statistics. And stop pulling out exceptions in an attempt to disprove the rule. Your employment of equivocal language (seems) tells us you know you're being disingenuous simply to try to win a point of debate. Typical atheist.

That's debunking, not belittling.

Its your story, you tell it as you like it.

Oh, by the way, are you gay?

157 posted on 04/23/2002 8:32:46 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
Read the overall statistics.

Well, you don't want to do that. The overal suicide rate for women in now lower than it was in 1950. You really really don't want to do that!

158 posted on 04/23/2002 8:37:30 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: Belial;AppyPappy
"I wonder if you follow Leviticus to the letter, or if you cherry pick the Stone Age prohibitions that best fit your agenda?"

And how does your braying with the jaw bone of a Stone Age ass, not fit your agenda?

159 posted on 04/23/2002 8:40:17 PM PDT by Matchett-PI
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To: jlogajan
I call homophobes homophobes. The word is in the dictionary and it has a specific meaning. Look it up.

One entry found for homophobia.

Main Entry: ho·mo·pho·bia
Pronunciation: "hO-m&-'fO-bE-&
Function: noun
Date: 1969
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals
- ho·mo·pho·bic /-'fO-bik/ adjective

Sorry, I am guilty of neither irrational fear of, aversion to, nor discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.

But as a doc, I do know certain facts that those pushing the homosexual agenda would rather were not made public:

Homosexual behavior increases risk of AIDS - Dr. Brian J. Kopp, DPM


Published by Centre Daily Times, Friday, June 2, 2000

Homosexual behavior increases risk of AIDS

by Brian J. Kopp, DPM

Parental warning: The following "My View" contains graphic medical terminology about sexual activities that may not be suitable for younger readers.


In her May 12 "My View," Mina Yindra makes many errors, but I would like to correct her statements regarding AIDS and "bigotry."


Promiscuous heterosexual sex carries with it a much higher risk for AIDS, primarily because of the sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) associated with it, causing a breakdown in the natural barriers of both male and female reproductive tracts. AIDS is primarily concentrated among heterosexuals in Africa because of the high rate of female genital mutilation, leading to much higher than average rates of anal and oral intercourse, and culturally-accepted extramarital sexual activity, including widespread prostitution. Rates of STDs are quite high in these populations.


However, AIDS is by far most common among the homosexual population in the United States, primarily because the type and frequency of sexual contact, combined with STDs, is the perfect method of spreading a body-fluid borne virus.


Public health records demonstrate that homosexuals, representing 2 percent of America's population, suffer vastly disproportionate percentages of several of America's most serious STDs, with incidences among homosexuals of diseases like gonorrhea, syphilis, hepatitis A and B, cytomegalovirus, shigellosis, giardiasis, amoebic bowel disease and herpes far exceeding their presence in the general population. These are due to common homosexual practices that include fellatio, anilingus, digital stimulation of the rectum and ingestion of urine and feces.


An exhaustive study in The New England Journal of Medicine, medical literature's only study reporting on homosexuals who kept sexual "diaries," indicated the average homosexual ingests the fecal material of 23 different men each year. The same study indicated the number of annual sexual partners averaged nearly 100. Homosexuals averaged, per year, fellating 106 different men and swallowing 50 of their seminal ejaculations, and 72 penile penetrations of the anus. (Corey, L, and Holmes, K.K., "Sexual Transmission of Hepatitis A in Homosexual Men," New England Journal of Medicine, 1980, vol 302: 435-438; as quoted in "Homosexuality and Civil Rights," Tony Marco, 1992).


A study by McKusick, et al., of 655 San Francisco homosexuals reported that only 24 percent of the sample claimed to have been "monogamous" during the past year, and of this 24 percent, 5 percent drank urine, 7 percent engag-ed in sex involving insertion of a fist in their rectums, 33 percent ingested feces, 53 percent swallowed semen and 59 percent received semen in their rectums in the month just previous to the survey ("AIDS and Sexual Behavior Reported by Homosexual Men in San Francisco," American Journal of Public Health, December 1985, 75: 493-496; quoted in "Homosexuality and Civil Rights," Tony Marco, 1992).


Lesbians show similar patterns of high venereal disease incidence relative to the general population. They are 19 times more likely to have had syphilis, twice as likely to have had genital warts, four times as likely to have had scabies, seven times more likely to have had infection from vaginal contact, 29 times more likely to have had oral infection from vaginal contact and 12 times more likely to have had an oral infection from penile contact ("Medical Aspects of Homosexuality," Institute for the Scientific Investigation of Sexuality, 1985, Jaffe and Keewhan, et al.; quoted in "Homosexuality and Civil Rights," Tony Marco, 1992).

AIDS research by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control reported that the typical homosexual interviewed claimed to have had more than 500 different sexual partners in a lifetime. Considered by themselves, the AIDS victims in this study averaged more than 1,100 lifetime sexual partners. Some reported as many as 20,000. Studies reported by A-P. Bell, M.S. Weinberg and S.K. Hammersmith in the book "Sexual Preference" (Bloomington, Indiana University Press, 1981) indicated that only 3 percent of homosexuals had fewer than 10 lifetime sexual partners. Only about 2 percent could be classified as either monogamous or semi-monogamous (from "Homosexuality and Civil Rights," Tony Marco, 1992).

To the present time, 75 to 85 percent of AIDS cases reported are related to homosexual activity, promiscuous heterosexual sex and IV drug abuse. AIDS stubbornly refuses to spread into the population in general, even 20 years after its discovery, despite dire warnings to the contrary.

These diseases are acquired directly through the sexual behavior homosexual activists are asking Americans to legally endorse and protect. Yet, as professor Jerome Lejeune of Descartes University, Paris, says of AIDS: "Only God can truly pardon the one who violates His laws; man pardons at times; Nature never pardons at all: She is not a person." The brutal consequences of attempting to break the natural law are not bigoted or hateful, nor are those, like Dr. Laura, Cal Thomas or Gary Morella, who try to point out the dangers and simple truths.

We are seeing the natural consequences of violating nature's laws now. They are also a warning to prevent the ultimate eternal consequences. How many will ignore that warning and continue to call the messenger a bigot and continue to shake their fist at God? How many will heed that warning of a loving Father, ready to forgive and reconcile His prodigal children?



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160 posted on 04/23/2002 8:41:06 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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