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Male-only tower for prince [Saudi Arabia Prince bans female Air Traffic Controllers in Texas!]
AP - Houston Chronicle ^ | 27 April 2002 | Associated Press

Posted on 04/27/2002 6:55:54 PM PDT by weegee

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DALLAS -- Representatives of Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah reportedly asked that female air traffic controllers be barred from their duties during his flights in Texas.

A Federal Aviation Administration employee, speaking to The Dallas Morning News on condition of anonymity, said the request was granted on portions of the prince's flights between Houston and Waco.

Abdullah was in Texas this week and met with President Bush at his Crawford ranch on Thursday.

The prince then flew in Houston and took a train to College Station to tour former President George Bush's presidential library on Friday.

Ruben Gonzalez, a regional manager for the company that operates the control tower at the Texas State Technical College airport in Waco, said a group of Saudis made the request to the airport manager.

Gonzalez said the request was honored, and two male controllers guided the prince's afternoon flight to Houston. A female tower manager was on the premises, he said.

A telephone message left at the airport by The Associated Press today was not immediately returned.

Also today, another FAA official told The Associated Press he was unaware of the Saudi demands. "We have not received an official request from either the Saudis or the State Department," FAA spokesman Roland Herwig said.

A White House spokeswoman said she was aware of the newspaper report, but could not immediately comment on it. Two Saudi officials traveling with the crown prince did not return several phone calls seeking comment this morning.

"I don't know where this news came from," Prince Saud al-Faisal, Saudi Arabia's foreign minister, said in an earlier interview with Houston television station KHOU. "I can say, without going back to our people, that is absolute nonsense that they would do something like that."

Mark Pallone, a regional vice president of the National Air Traffic Controllers Association, voiced anger over the events.

"I don't think his request should have even been passed on," he said. "Our controllers are all qualified. We don't qualify people based on sex or religion."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airseclist; clashofcivilizatio; eoc; govwatch; middleeast; negotiations; saudiarabiaprince
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1 posted on 04/27/2002 6:55:55 PM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee
The "Tablecloth Gang" Speaks..........
2 posted on 04/27/2002 7:06:43 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: cmsgop
"The "Tablecloth Gang" Speaks.........."

...and the Bush administration listens and complies.

3 posted on 04/27/2002 7:08:06 PM PDT by lormand
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To: weegee
I am getting sick and tired of idiots, in the government kissing the @ss, of these backward @ss, towel boys! I wish somebody would say to the prince, THIS IS AMERICA!!! WOMEN HAVE RIGHTS!!!! IF DON'T LIKE IT THEN GO POUND SAND!!!! And I wish W and the rest of his administration would GET MORE MINERALS IN THEIR TESTICLES!!!! And I thought Jimmy Carter, was a wimp!
4 posted on 04/27/2002 7:08:12 PM PDT by mlibertarianj
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To: weegee
What really got him riled was when the air traffic controller held the mike down to the sow snorting at his feet.

Controller: Sheik Air heavy, you are clear on runway SNORT! SNORT! SNORT!

Sheik Air heavy: Heathen tower, say again, transmission garbled

Controller: SNORT! SNORT! SNORT!

Sheik Air heavy: Alihu akbar! I am aborting! You have a female pig in the tower!

Controller: SNORT! SNORT! SNORT!

6 posted on 04/27/2002 7:18:41 PM PDT by PhilDragoo
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To: weegee
You have to wonder why the media gets into such a swivet about this, but when the Saudis pay rewards to the families of Palestinian homicide bombers and subsidize terrorists, they seem to think that isn't worth raising a fuss about. I agree that this behavior is bizarre and obnoxious, but it's not as bad as blowing innocent women and children to bits.
7 posted on 04/27/2002 7:19:05 PM PDT by Cicero
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When I was a staff dentist in a "low income" clinic, we had many patients of Middle-Eastern background go way out of their way to avoid being treated by me because I was female. One guy was so bold as to grab a male dentist who was walking by the dental chair where I was doing a 6 month check up on the man's 5 year old daughter. From that day forward, I would not attempt to work on any patients of that ethnicity without first having one of the assistants get me "cleared" by the "man" patient. The funny thing is that I would not let ANYONE in my family be treated by one of my male peers (his work was not what I would want for myself or my family). But hey, that Y chromosome is all that matters to some folks, I suppose. ROCK ON!

Oh, and most of these folks were in the USA on student VISAs getting their dental care complements of the state.

8 posted on 04/27/2002 7:23:58 PM PDT by overtaxd
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To: weegee

Texas aviation officials said the controversy began Thursday morning when members of the prince's entourage approached the manager of the Texas State Technical College airport in Waco, the airfield used by Mr. Bush and dignitaries visiting his ranch in nearby Crawford.

"Apparently, what happened is that an advance group of Saudi Arabians went in and talked to the airport manager and told him they did not want any females on the ramp and also said there should not be any females talking to the airplane," said Ruben Gonzalez, regional manager for RVA Inc., which operates the airport's control tower under a contract with the FAA.

The request was honored, Mr. Gonzalez said, and safety was in no way compromised. He said a male controller handled the prince's morning flight from Houston to Waco, with the female tower manager on the premises and ready to work, if necessary. Two male controllers guided the prince's afternoon flight back to Houston, he said.

"I had never had a request like this and thought it was odd," Mr. Gonzalez said. "But we did not do anything out of the ordinary. We just did our jobs."

Mr. Pallone, the union official, said the Saudis' male-only appeal made its way from the Waco airport to three FAA stations along the prince's route: the Waco approach control center and the Fort Worth and Houston en route centers.

During the morning flight to Waco, authorities in the Houston en route center "refused to comply" with the prince's request, Mr. Pallone said. The issue was moot in the Fort Worth en route center because an all-male crew already had been scheduled, he said. In the Waco center, he said, a male controller took charge of the prince's plane from a female controller.

During the return flight to Houston, only men were working in the Waco center, Mr. Pallone said. At least one woman was on duty in the Fort Worth center, he said, and Houston made no special arrangements.


9 posted on 04/27/2002 7:26:17 PM PDT by deport
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To: weegee
Let me get this straight.
The Air Controllers, who lost control of their 3 jets
in the 911 Atrocities, now capitulate and bend down to the towel-heads?

Murder delivered to America from the House of Saud.

10 posted on 04/27/2002 7:41:57 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: overtaxd
Reminds me of my first proctol exam a few months ago by a female doctor. I think it was better for me since women on average have smaller fingers. :)

The weird part was that she brought in one of her nurses just to watch. I was as calm as could be...didn't even blink!

11 posted on 04/27/2002 7:43:26 PM PDT by lormand
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To: Diogenesis

Weren't the transponders turn off on the planes?.......

12 posted on 04/27/2002 7:44:25 PM PDT by deport
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To: deport
They lost control of the FOUR planes.

Now they capitulate to the Saudi murderers
who TO THIS DAY pay the families of the murderers
of Americans.

13 posted on 04/27/2002 7:46:43 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Diogenesis

Notice the small child in the arms of one of the doomed victims in the window.

10,000 nuclear bombs dropped on the entire Muslim world would not satisfy me.

14 posted on 04/27/2002 7:47:13 PM PDT by lormand
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To: weegee
Let's see if we understand this. Americans in Saudi, protecting the Saudi's, are not allowed to drink brooze, unable to celebrate Christmas, even on the American base, and our service women cannot go out unattended by a male, and must cover their heads. And we gladly agree to such restrictions. On the other hand, the Prince demands that American female air controllers be banned during his passing in Texas. And again we gladly agree.

Nuts.

16 posted on 04/27/2002 7:57:50 PM PDT by Bounceback
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To: weegee
Every time you see one of those Arab bastards with the royal rags on their head, remember this:

click!

17 posted on 04/27/2002 7:58:06 PM PDT by ghostrider
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The link did not work

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/522325/posts

18 posted on 04/27/2002 8:02:02 PM PDT by ghostrider
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To: weegee
Wouldn't it have been great if one of the male controllers had spoken in falsetto!!!! HeeHee!

Why oh why is it that we all have to conform, when we go to other countries, but we have to change things here, to suit them??!!

19 posted on 04/27/2002 8:04:04 PM PDT by Exit148
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To: weegee
Usually I get more p*ssed off at feminists than I do at the average male chauvinist.

BUT this really really really REALLY p*sses me OFF. WHAT can the WH be thinking of to inflict such an indignity on some women professionals on behalf of the whims of a tyrant like Abdullah?

20 posted on 04/27/2002 8:12:57 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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