INS confirms border incident with Mexico

The Denver Post ^ | Wednesday, May 22, 2002 | Bill McAllister

[goldylight]

When will the government wake up and close/militarize the borders....

[uncbob]

After the close the borders end the insane WOD and free up manpower to track terrorists instead of POT smokers

[Hodar]

The Gov. of Arizona has at his disposal, the Arizona National Guard. The National Guard has at it's disposal, at least ONE Sherman Tank. How about the next time an incursion is detected, a single tank is used to meet the Mexicans. Then if they want to fire on the tank, the tank can fire back. As Shermans can fire with pin point accuracy, while moving over rough terrain at up to 75 mph; I think this would send a clear message to the Mexicans who are illegally on our soil, and commiting an act of war.

[gcruse]

 How about the next time an incursion is detected, a single tank is used to meet the Mexicans.

All you have to do is convince them to hang around while
the National Guard goes and get its tank.  Oh, yeah.

[ScreamingFist]

I believe you meant to say Abrahms tank. The WWII Sherman couln't hit 75 miles an hour if you dropped it out of an aircraft.

[Not_Who_U_Think]

75 mph??? Must be the turbo model.

[FF578]

You must mean an M1A1 Abrams tank. The shermans were used in WW2, they had a 75MM Gun, but could not go 75MPH. In Fact even the Modern M1A1 with it's turbine engines cannot go 75MPH. 50-60 MPH Absolute top speed under best conditions. Over rough ground maybe 35-40 mph.

[Ohioan]

Where are Generals Pershing & MacArthur, when we need them?

Frankly, I would like to see good relations with our Mexican neighbors, but good relations start with mutual respect. And so long as they refuse to respect our borders, and our rights in our own land to preserve our own land for our own people; mutual respect will be impossible. [This is just one more problem, directly caused by too much of that form of "Liberalism," that is really Socialism in sheep's clothing.]

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[Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy]

I love the spin they put on these stories. Ten soldiers? Nah, only three. Shot up the car? Nah, just the rear window. And besides, they were chasing Mexican drug dealers, so it's okay. They shot at a clearly marked INS vehicle manned by uniformed INS officers because they were "antsy". Uh-huh.

Maybe the uniformed Mexican soldiers were the drug dealers, and shot at the INS for this very reason. I doubt that even the Mexican military shoots suspected smugglers on sight, or that it is too "antsy" to tell the difference between a smuggler and an INS officer. Nor does shooting at a fleeing INS vehicle sound like standard policing behavior.

Nice to see that the INS's standard policy when confronted by deadly force is to flee. Makes me less than comfortable knowing that this undermanned agency is all that is "defending" our borders.

[aardvark1]

Forget Pershing and MacArthur...we need Davie Crocket and Jim Bowie!!!

[Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy]

Forget Pershing and MacArthur...we need Davie Crocket and Jim Bowie!!!

Sure, as long as you mean the Davie Crocket "pocket nuke" and the Jim Bowie knife.

[Nephi]

Meanwhile, the Bush administration has given up on defending America against suicide bombers.

Bush: Read my lips - I'm a conservative.

[CJ Wolf]

Time to hold some unannounced National Guard boarder patrols. Give them some real and needed live hunting to do.

[Boxsford]

A U.S. agent spotted three Mexican soldiers in a Mexican Humvee on U.S. soil and was attempting to leave the area when the rear window of his vehicle was apparently shattered by gunfire, she said. The agent was leaving the area "in an effort to avoid a confrontation" with the Mexicans,

I caught that too. What is up with that? Leaving to avoid a confrontation?!

[SUSSA]

This is not the first time the Mexican military crossed the border and shot at U.S. federal agents. This should be stopped by the Army not the national guard.

I'd send the 9th Infantry Division into Mexico with orders to take Mexico City and pacify everything in between. If they encounter any resistance, I'd make Sherman's march to the sea look like a Sunday school picnic.

This is another act of war. The Mexican's are invading our country and nobody is doing a thing about it. Their military just comes here and shoots at anyone they please and our government yawns and sends them more aid. What we need to do is respond with such force that no country even thinks about attacking us again for a hundred years.

[xrp]

The USA hasn't kicked Mexico around since 1848, right? Sounds like they're overdue and are in need of an attitude adjustment.

[Arkie2]

I would be really surprised if these guys were actually Mexican soldiers and if they were they are obviously supporting drug runners making them criminals. The Mexican Government certainly doesn't have a policy of armed intervention in the US! On the other hand, we damn sure need to get our butts in gear and stop this nonsense

[PsyOp]

The agent told him, " "As far as I am concerned, that (incursion) should be an act of war,' " Tancredo said.

About time a US lawmaker used those words!

[Tennessee_Bob]

Pulling back to call in for assistance, maybe? He already knew it was Mexican military, probably figured he was already outgunned.