Posted on 06/06/2002 11:45:39 PM PDT by janetgreen
Edited on 04/12/2004 5:38:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Among its other shortcomings of omission and commission, the California Legislature is a very inconsistent purveyor of public policy, constantly enacting legislation that reverses other laws, sometimes even within the same legislative session.
While the syndrome is not a new one, the rapid turnover of legislators mandated by term limits may exacerbate it as it damages institutional memory. New people have new slants on matters of public policy and are not shy about engraving them into law, regardless of how they may conflict with past policies.
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Californians should contact their representatives and ask them to sponsor such legislation. It will be interesting to see what our dim-bulb governor does.
If it's a newborn and it's not his he shouldn't have to support it. If it's past the toddler stage and he has a father-child relationship with the kid and he finds out it's not his and therefore doesn't support it... here goes... HE IS NOT A MAN. A man wouldn't ruin a kid's life because the mother is a whore; he'd continue being "Dad" to the kid.
You can call me "Jeff".
Sounds like she's making it impossible for him to be Dad to the kid.
What BS, these kids have fathers! Let the mothers find them and hold the real fathers responsible. And if they don't even know who the real father is maybe they ought to be jailed until they can remember!
He should be forced to take from his kids and support another man's child? And the real father does not have to pay support.
Because such "honorable behavior" is usually pretty thin in the "experience" department. Besides, I question the assertion of "fatherhood" as well as "honorable behavior" by your definition.
Because such "honorable behavior" is usually pretty thin in the "experience" department. Besides, I question the assertion of "fatherhood" as well as "honorable behavior" by your definition.
Put yourself in the kid's place. If you have been living with the kid and acting as his father, then you are, as far as the kid is concerned, his father. The kid doesn't care about DNA. You're Dad. If you're Dad one day, how can you (with honor) discard the kid the next? If you loved him as a son (or daughter) one day, how can you not the next? Do you have any idea how that will effect the child who, up until ten seconds ago, was yours? With the kind of mother posited in the hypothetical, the last thing the kid needs is abandonment by the man he knows as his father.
I think the key to your confusion can be found in your words: Thankless sacrifice is usually rewarded with bitterness. Parenthood, like marriage, or any other loving relationship, is indeed very much about sacrifice. And if you only sacrifice of yourself with the expectation of reward, you don't understand the meaning of parenthood, or even of love itself.
I question the assertion of "fatherhood" as well as "honorable behavior" by your definition.
A father is the man who does the job of fathering. Sperm has nothing to do with it.
An honorable man does not abandon his children, even the cuckolded ones. He sucks it up and takes it like a man. (Didn't your father ever explain these things to you?)
He should be forced to take from his kids and support another man's child? And the real father does not have to pay support.\
I can see your point.
How old was the kid when they broke up? It makes a difference. If he was 3 that's one thing. If he was 10, the man is still Dad to the kid, and the fact that Dad hasn't been allowed to see the kid is the real travesty. How hard did he try, or did he allow his bitterness to impede his efforts? Did the courts let him down?
My point of view is that child support should not be dependent upon visitation, but hampering or denying visitation should be severely punished. As always, it's about the kid, not he parent.
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