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Kodak fires man over 'gay' stance
WorldNetDaily ^ | Oct 24, 2002 | Joe Kovacs

Posted on 10/24/2002 9:24:46 AM PDT by Maximilian

Kodak fires man over 'gay' stance
23-year veteran of global film giant objected to pro-homosexual memo

By Joe Kovacs
© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com

A 23-year veteran of The Eastman Kodak Co. has been fired after objecting to a pro-homosexual memo this month and is now looking to take legal action against the film giant.

Rolf Szabo, who worked as a millwright at Kodak's world headquarters in Rochester, N.Y., was terminated for refusing to recant remarks officials say did not adhere to the company's "Winning & Inclusive Culture" designed to promote diversity among employees.

The events that led to the action began when Szabo was forwarded an e-mail from his supervisor regarding the Human Rights Campaign's annual "Coming Out Day." The memo reads:

Today, Oct. 11, is the Human Rights Campaign's 15th annual National Coming Out Day for people who are gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered. If one of your employees elects to "come out" at work, there are several things you can do to help that person feel comfortable in sharing his/her orientation in the workplace:

-- Be supportive of the individual who wishes to share this information.

-- Acknowledge his/her courage to publicly share this personal information.

-- Respect the individual's privacy. Understand how broadly he/she wishes the information to be shared.

-- Acknowledge your level of awareness of this topic, and share your personal willingness to understand.

What can supervisors do in the work environment to support their gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered employees who wish to be "out" to their supervisor or co-workers?

-- Be sensitive to the employee's language in defining their personal orientation.

-- Support the employee in displaying appropriate personal photos in the work setting.

-- Recognize and respect that not all (gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgendered) employees find it OK to be out at work. They should not be questioned or harassed about their sexual orientation.

-- Act quickly and responsibly if any anti-gay humor or negative comments are made in the workplace.

A footnote referencing the last two suggestions reads:

Keep in mind that such behaviors violate Kodak's Values as well as Kodak's Equal Opportunity Employment Policy, which all supervisors are responsible for maintaining in their areas. Specific examples are cited in your "Call to Action" training materials. Reported violations of this policy are to be thoroughly investigated. If verified, disciplinary action is to be taken.

The response by Szabo was brief, but it was dispatched to all recipients of the original e-mail, some 1,000 Kodak employees:

Please do not send this type of information to me anymore, as I find it disgusting and offensive. Thank you,

Rolf Szabo

Shortly after that comment, Szabo says another memo from manager Randy Bakel was sent to all of the workers, apologizing for Szabo's remarks:

As you all know, our strategic thrust to build a Winning & Inclusive Culture drives us to behave in ways that value everyone regardless of differences. While I understand that we are all free to have our own personal beliefs, when we come to the Kodak workplace, our behaviors must align with the Kodak Values. I apologize for the e-mail sent to all of you from Rolf Szabo this morning. Rolf's comments are hurtful to our employees, friends and family members who are gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgendered. This behavior is not aligned with the Kodak Values and, therefore, is not acceptable.

Szabo tells WorldNetDaily he was asked to sign an ECP – an employee commitment plan – saying he was sorry for what he had written and outlining steps to make sure a similar incident would not recur. When he asked what the alternative to signing it was, he was informed "termination."

"I would not submit and cave in to their trying to browbeat me into a confession," said Szabo, who is looking for legal advice before telling more details of his story.

Kodak, meanwhile, confirms the veracity of the e-mail memos, as well as subsequent action it took.

"The whole thing is true," said Jim Blamphin, Kodak's manager of corporate media relations. "This chap was asked to take part in a program that fosters inclusion, and he refused." But Blamphin also said there were additional reasons for the termination, which he would not specify.

"Every possible definition of diversity is embraced by Kodak," Blamphin said. "This is a company that does not take these matters lightly. Considerable thought is behind decisions that are made and policies that are established."

Indeed, the company makes no secret of its commitment to diversity. Its website provides a large amount of material expounding upon its mindset:

"All of us at Kodak work from a set of core values," says its mission statement, "and we're proud to say that our resulting personal conduct allows for an environment that is free from inappropriate pressures and diversions. We show respect for the dignity of the individual. And in the process, we value and champion our human differences. This helps us maintain the diversity of our workforce."

Kodak also touts a list of accolades received in recent years, with a consistent theme of equal opportunity and inclusion. Some of the honors refer to the sexual orientation of employees:

10 Best Places for Lesbians to Work (1999)
Kodak was given the above recognition by Girlfriends magazine, a national lesbian publication.

Diversity 100 (1999) br>Kodak was identified by Next Step magazine as taking the lead in addressing diversity, and was acknowledged for its commitment to building and managing a diverse workforce.

GFN.com 50 (1999)
The Gay Financial Network identified Kodak as No. 28 on the 1999 "GFN.com 50," its list of the 50 most powerful and gay-friendly publicly traded companies in the Fortune 500.

National Partnership for Reinventing Government – Diversity Best Practices (1999)
Kodak was one of 11 companies selected for Vice President Al Gore's National Partnership for the Reinventing Government benchmarking study on best practices: Achieving workforce diversity.

Top 25 Companies for Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgendered Employees (1999)
Kodak was recognized by The Advocate magazine as one of the 25 top companies that provide a good working atmosphere for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered employees.

Kodak CEO Dan Carp

And just this year, Kodak was one of 13 companies that earned a perfect rating of 100 percent in the Human Rights Campaign Foundation's first Corporate Equality Index. The index rates large corporations on policies affecting their "gay," lesbian, bisexual and transgender employees, investors and consumers. The others sharing top honors were Aetna, American Airlines, Apple Computers, Avaya, Intel, J.P. Morgan Chase & Co., Lucent Technologies, NCR, Nike, Replacements Ltd., Worldspan and Xerox.

"In the name of tolerance they foment a spirit of intolerance," says Rochester radio talk-show host Bob Lonsberry, who has been discussing Kodak's firing of Szabo on the air and in his online column. "Their ongoing incessant theme is diversity of the most progressive sort, but those in the workplace feel it's rubbed in their face."

Response to the issue on Lonsberry's message board has favored Szabo overwhelmingly.

"I work in the same division as Rolf," said one message poster. "Kodak is constantly trying to cram this diversity/inclusive culture crap down our throats. We are told by management that all beliefs are welcome. Well, as Rolf found out, if your opinions and fundamental beliefs go against the Kodak party line, you will be gone."

"What a crock," writes Paula from Rock Glen, N.Y. "You are now required at risk of your job to go along with things that to you are immoral. How nice. Now lets all holds hands and sing gay songs. If it is hurtful to the gay or lesbian person that not everyone likes what they do maybe it is their own ideas that what they are doing is wrong. And as for family of these people, I am one of those, and I do not get offended at any person being offended by what they are. They are immoral."

Lonsberry says this isn't the first time Kodak has gone overboard with political correctness. He points out the company had planned to mark the anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon by holding two all-day classes promoting inclusion as pointed out in this memo:

Diversity: Beyond Race & Gender focuses on helping employees to better understand diversity and inclusion as well as Kodak's commitment to creating an environment in which employees leverage diversity and inclusion to maximize the potential of everyone. Stephanie Street gives a lively presentation that provides employees the opportunity to think about diversity and inclusion in broader terms than just race and gender.

How Has 9-11 Changed Our View of Diversity & Inclusion? is an open forum in which employees are provided the opportunity to openly discuss where they were on 9-11, their reactions, and subsequent insights into diversity. This forum provides informal conversation with Brian O'Connor moderating the discussion to ensure that everyone who so desires has an opportunity to share.

"They turned Sept. 11 into a diversity field day," recounts Lonsberry, who points out backlash prompted the company to scrap plans for the classes and simply hold a moment of silence.

Headed by CEO Dan Carp, Kodak is among America's best-known companies, employing 54,800 people in the U.S. and 97,500 worldwide, with global sales of $13.2 billion.

Officials admit to getting some e-mails and calls about the termination, most of which are sympathetic toward Szabo. And while Kodak won't comment now on the potential of any lawsuit, it doesn't appear overly concerned about the possibility of a consumer boycott.

"Any situation that casts a cloud over any large corporation, the first thing people think of doing is stopping buying products," Blamphin said. "On any given day, there are over 1,000 boycotts against American products. ... You can't name any, I can't name any."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
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This was posted as a short news item from Rochester TV news, but this WorldNETDaily story has much more detailed information and a complete copy of the emails.
1 posted on 10/24/2002 9:24:46 AM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
I work for a Kodak owned and run company in the film/entertainment industry and our president is a lesbian.
2 posted on 10/24/2002 9:29:35 AM PDT by sonserae
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To: Maximilian
I dunno...if Kodak is an 'at will' employer the guy probably has no case. He can be fired for any reason (excepting the usual race/religion/etc.), or no reason at all. I don't see his objections being covered under race/religion/gender exceptions. Caveat: I am not a lawyer!
3 posted on 10/24/2002 9:30:27 AM PDT by NukeMan
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To: Diago; narses; Loyalist; BlackElk; american colleen; saradippity; Polycarp; Dajjal; ...
Buy Fuji Film!

I recently bought a new camera, and have wondered about the best film to buy. I've leaned towards Kodak simply because of being an American company. But this is not "American," as far as I'm concerned. Fuji is more American than this kind of totalitarianism from Kodak.

Someone pointed out on another thread that Koday should be able to hire whoever they want, only gays if they want. Fine. But then we don't have to buy their products. And to be fair, we should entirely eliminate the EEOC so that it's not only white heterosexual able-bodied males who are discriminated against.

Notice also the complete contempt for normal Americans displayed by the PR Director, Blamphin, when he dismisses any thought of complaints or boycotts. Companies like Kodak just don't care about us.

Remember how Eisner of Disney said they could do without the business of Southern Baptists and Catholics? Turned out he was wrong. Disney has tanked bad, even worse and sooner than the rest of the stock market. Here's a page of Kodak contact info (no emails unfortunately):
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/pressCenter/contactKodak.shtml
4 posted on 10/24/2002 9:34:31 AM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
If he finds Kodak's stance so disgusting, maybe he shouldn't work there.

I get a lot of email from my employer that I choose to take no action on.... I just ignore it. I don't see why this guy didn't just send this email to his "recycle bin" and leave it at that.

5 posted on 10/24/2002 9:34:41 AM PDT by MissMillie
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To: Maximilian
And just this year, Kodak was one of 13 companies that earned a perfect rating of 100 percent in the Human Rights Campaign Foundation's first Corporate Equality Index. The index rates large corporations on policies affecting their "gay," lesbian, bisexual and transgender employees, investors and consumers. The others sharing top honors were Aetna, American Airlines, Apple Computers, Avaya, Intel, J.P. Morgan Chase & Co., Lucent Technologies, NCR, Nike, Replacements Ltd., Worldspan and Xerox.
No Disney???!!!
6 posted on 10/24/2002 9:38:15 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: MissMillie
He probably doesn't want his jub back, but I get the impression that it disgusts him enough that he wants to leave some sort of mark on the company before he disappears for good. That's why he's filing a lawsuit. He wants to get in their face with this, even if he has no case.
7 posted on 10/24/2002 9:39:55 AM PDT by MetalliDragon
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To: MetalliDragon
Err, job. Sorry, just woke up after a long sleep. ;)
8 posted on 10/24/2002 9:40:21 AM PDT by MetalliDragon
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To: MissMillie
After reading the article, it seems as though this email was the proverbial 'straw' for Mr. Szabo. I applaud his courage to stick to his beliefs in the face of losing his job.
9 posted on 10/24/2002 9:40:28 AM PDT by reagent
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To: Maximilian
Anyone have an appropriate email address at Kodak where Freepers can experess their opinions on this?

I will just bet that if Kodak receives 20,000 + emails complaining about Kodak unwillingness to support a person's request to be removed from an offensive mailing list that they just might start changing some policies.
10 posted on 10/24/2002 9:42:27 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Maximilian
Respect the individual's privacy. Understand how broadly he/she wishes the information to be shared.
Howzabout respecting Szabo's privacy by understanding how little he wishes to information to be shared?
11 posted on 10/24/2002 9:45:41 AM PDT by eastsider
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to = this
12 posted on 10/24/2002 9:46:48 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: NukeMan
"Caveat: I am not a lawyer!"

But the real question is: But do you play one on TV?


13 posted on 10/24/2002 9:47:18 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: Maximilian
'And while Kodak won't comment now on the potential of any lawsuit, it doesn't appear overly concerned about the possibility of a consumer boycott.'

Here is where the rubber meets the road. I ended my support of ALL things Kodak, Ofoto related (I used both) and will find an alternative.

If you believe that this position is as wrong as I do, you should indeed vote with your wallet and pass on the word. Disney has indeed felt the pinch in losing organized Christian business at its theme parks.

Maybe Kodak wil learn that its customers do indeed react to this bending over backwards for gay tolerance at the expense of simple personal consideration for an employee who had enough.
14 posted on 10/24/2002 9:47:22 AM PDT by txzman
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To: Maximilian
"Here's a page of Kodak contact info (no emails unfortunately):"

A little Digging found the below link!

http://www.kodak.com/cgi-bin/global/en/service/contact/feedback.cgi?conf=/global/include/en/service/contact/contact.conf

15 posted on 10/24/2002 9:47:41 AM PDT by Dacus943
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To: Maximilian
The PC factor is moving south from Canada.....soon to silence all who disagree using legal mandate.
16 posted on 10/24/2002 9:47:56 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: MissMillie
I work for the City of Seattle, and several years ago I replied negatively to a City email promoting employee participation in the city's annual "Gay Pride Parade." I pointed out that for many Christians, such an invitation is equivalent to inviting a Jew to a pig roast. I further pointed out that the parade routinely includes marchers who make a point of mocking the beliefs of religious groups with whom they disagree. (A regular feature of the parade is a group of lesbians dressed up as nuns.) So I basically made the point that the City's invitation to participate in the parade is insensitive to the values and beliefs of many City employees. I was not reprimanded for this email (I sent it only to supervisors in my area), but I'm sure it didn't help my long-term promotional opportunities. But I suympathize with the Kodak employee, because he is given the alternative of being FORCED INTO THE CLOSET (the approach you seem to suggest) or pretending to agree with policies or beliefs which run contrary to his personal religious beliefs.
17 posted on 10/24/2002 9:49:00 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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A 23-year veteran of The Eastman Kodak Co. has been fired

How much of a 'veteran' can one be at 23?

18 posted on 10/24/2002 9:51:47 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Maximilian
Blamphin sounds like a smug a**hole and a blooming fascist.
19 posted on 10/24/2002 9:52:23 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Rye
"how much of a veteran can one be at 23"

I don't think it is saying he is 23 years old, but that he was worked at Kodak for 23 years. So for this employee, it was a huge risk that he took.
20 posted on 10/24/2002 9:53:55 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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