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Now, on to the WoD [War on Drugs] flamewars. There are a few problems with them. The flaming on them is tremendous. It is wrong for several reasons, and it should stop and the first thing we are going to do to try to get them to stop is to make a request for them to stop.

The only way this will be achieved is if you simply ban those who support the ridiculous and highly immoral idea of drug legalization. That is absolutely NOT a conservative concept, and would therefore be better suited for a place other than FR.

Just my humble opinion.

That is absolutely NOT a conservative concept, and would therefore be better suited for a place other than FR.

Funny . . . I don't recall seeing you on many WoD threads. If it's not a conservative concept, I wonder if you'd care to come on a thread and explain why, because none of the other Drug Warriors have been able to explain why supporting the W.o.D. is a conservative concept. Consider this an invitation from an anti-W.o.D. freeper to join in and argue your point.

Even the Temperance Movement had more respect for the Constitution than that. They did it the legot way, they respected the LAW, they passed a Constitutional Amendment.

There seems to be a mixed gang of thugs willing to kick the Constitution while it's down -- the nanny-state socialists with government as the Uber-Mammy, and the drug warriors, with governement as the Uber-Papa. Well many of us hold to a higher standard -- the government is a contract between adults.

The only way this will be achieved is if you simply ban those who support the ridiculous and highly immoral idea of drug legalization. That is absolutely NOT a conservative concept, and would therefore be better suited for a place other than FR.

One doesn't have to support drug legalization to have concerns about the trampling of the Constitution that appears to be occurring because of the WoD... but then, that's MY opinion...

And calling for more government programs IS a conservative concept? I thought Conservatism was akin to Constitutionalism: a call to REDUCE FedGov to its Constitutional limits. Which is what ending the INSANE WoSD is about: moving the fight to the several SOVEREIGN States. Got a problem with that? If so, you are hardly Conservative.

Here's an Anti-WOD post from Jim Robinson:

"There is nothing in the U.S. Constitution that authorizes the federal government to wage war against the citizens of the United States, no matter how well-meaning the intent. The Bill of Rights means just as much today, as it did on the day it was written. And its protections are just as valid and just as important to freedom today, as they were to our Founders two hundred years ago. The danger of the drug war is that it erodes away those rights. Once the fourth amendment is meaningless, it's just that much easier to erode away the first and then the second, etc. Soon we'll have no rights at all. " Jim Robinson, 5/9/01

The only way this will be achieved is if you simply ban those who support the ridiculous and highly immoral idea of drug legalization. That is absolutely NOT a conservative concept, and would therefore be better suited for a place other than FR.

"If adults want to take such chances [using marijuana], that is their business."
-Ronald Reagan, Radio commentary, August, 1979

"Of course dad was for legalization."
-Michael Reagan

"I have not spoken of the cost to our society of the astonishing legal weapons available now to policemen and prosecutors; of the penalty of forfeiture of one's home and property for violation of laws which, though designed to advance the war against drugs, could legally be used -- I am told by learned counsel -- as penalties for the neglect of one's pets. I leave it at this, that it is outrageous to live in a society whose laws tolerate sending young people to life in prison because they grew, or distributed, a dozen ounces of marijuana. I would hope that the good offices of your vital profession would mobilize at least to protest such excesses of wartime zeal, the legal equivalent of a My Lai massacre. And perhaps proceed to recommend the legalization of the sale of most drugs, except to minors."
-William F. Buckley, Jr.

-Eric