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Suits, Masks May Signal Chemical Strike
The Associated Press ^ | Tuesday March 25 | he Associated Press

Posted on 03/25/2003 2:27:49 PM PST by Guardian_John

Thousands of chemical suits found at Iraqi positions, gas masks abandoned in trenches.

The items, strewn across the desert road to Baghdad, could be clues that Saddam Hussein's Republican Guard may be plotting to unleash a deadly chemical strike.

Or they could be the precautionary equipment of a well-supplied army battling the world's mightiest military.

While the United States believes Iraq has chemical and biological weapons, there is no way to know whether Saddam would unleash them. He didn't during the 1991 Gulf War - when, it is known for certain, he possessed them.

``They know very well that the coalition forces don't have chemical weapons with them so the only reason the Iraqi troops would have that kind of equipment is because they plan to use the weapons themselves,'' said Terence Taylor, who led U.N. weapons inspections in Iraq in the 1990s. ``There is really no other reason for fighting forces to wear special equipment.''

Coalition military commanders, expecting Iraq to use biological or chemical weapons, say they are prepared for such an attack and are busily trying to find any stocks of the deadly weapons.

So far they haven't found the weapons but several new signs are hard to ignore.

In the city of An Nasiriyah, Marines who secured a hospital being used as a military staging area for Iraqi paramilitary forces, found over 3,000 chemical suits with masks, Iraqi ammunitions and military uniforms, the U.S. Central Command announced. The Marines also found a T-55 tank on the compound.

And at the city's air base, U.S. forces sealed off 36 bunkers earmarked as potential sites for weapons of mass destruction.

On Monday, Marines near the Iraqi navy port of Az Zubayar reported finding abandoned Iraqi military gear, including chemical suits.

Elsewhere, Iraqi troops who fled their positions left behind bundles of unused gas masks.

U.S. officials have repeatedly warned that Iraq was more likely to use chemical or biological weapons against coalition troops the closer they get to Baghdad.

``I would expect that they would hold their most valuable treasures close to their heart,'' Air Force Maj. Gen. Victor Renuart said in Qatar. ``And I think as we get closer to Baghdad we will see more of those sites that we will continue to exploit.''

``We have continued to develop information that we found and to interview key leaders that we've detained on the battlefield and are developing that information to lead us to more sites,'' he said.

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was more reserved Monday, saying intelligence ``scraps,'' suggested that ``the closer that coalition forces get to Baghdad, the greater the likelihood that some command and control arrangements have been put in place,'' to use chemical weapons. ``But whether it'll happen or not remains to be seen.''

Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the U.S. military had its own plan to address such an attack but he would not reveal details.

U.S. officials say they believe Iraq's chemical weapons are under the control of the Republican Guard, Saddam's best-trained and most loyal troops. A large part of those forces is concentrated in the southern part of Baghdad.

Some of Iraq's chemical arsenal, officials say, could be loaded onto artillery and rockets that have a range of about a dozen miles or less.

Pentagon officials who discussed the chemical weapons issue on condition of anonymity said it was unclear what rank of Iraqi officers had been authorized to order the use of chemical weapons. Officials said it was doubtful the chemical authority went as low as company-level commanders, who are usually at captain's rank.

Coalition troops awaiting invasion orders have chemical protection gear and equipment that can detect chemical agents up to three miles away. American tanks and armored vehicles have filters designed to keep the troops inside safe from the deadly agents. Anticipating the possibility of chemical combat, U.S. troops have trained extensively on operating in a contaminated environment.

U.S. and British officials say Iraq has stocks of chemical weapons, including the deadly nerve agents sarin, cyclosarin, mustard gas and VX. Iraq insistes that it destroyed its stockpiles after 1991 but weapons inspectors were never able to verify those claims.

If Saddam does retain the weapons, U.S. officials believe he could use them to put down an internal uprising, slow an American onslaught or keep U.S. forces out of a particular area.

A chemical attack against Iraqi civilians could bog down U.S. troops by creating a humanitarian crisis that American forces couldn't ignore.

But Taylor and others believe Saddam's government will only use chemical or biological weapons as a last resort.

``Once they use them, the whole world community would turn against them and everyone would say the Americans and British were right. Even the French have said they would join the coalition if chem-bio was used.''


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: azzubayar; chemicalsuits; illegalweapons; roadtobaghdad

1 posted on 03/25/2003 2:27:49 PM PST by Guardian_John
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To: Guardian_John
Don't worry. I heard Peter Arnett saying this morning that he hadn't seen any sign of chemical gear being used by the Iraqis.
2 posted on 03/25/2003 2:29:41 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: Guardian_John
They couldn't run fast enough with all that stuff weighing them down. However, if they abandoned their positions in an ordered retreat, they will be less likely to use chemical weapons as they have no protection themselves.
3 posted on 03/25/2003 2:31:41 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: mewzilla
Or they could be the precautionary equipment of a well-supplied army battling the world's mightiest military.

Sure. Just don't pay attention to the fact that they don't have shoes.
4 posted on 03/25/2003 2:33:10 PM PST by No Left Turn
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To: mewzilla
whew. I would take that to mean that Peter hasn't seen any sign of chemical gear being used by the Iraqis.
5 posted on 03/25/2003 2:33:46 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (eif eit smells eits french)
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To: Flurry
Somehow, I don't think Peter's looking too hard.
6 posted on 03/25/2003 2:35:04 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
>Don't worry. I heard Peter Arnett saying this morning that he hadn't seen any sign of chemical gear

Yes. And Blix has said
that Saddam wouldn't want to
damage his image

by using bad things
like biochemical stuff.
Could these two be wrong?!

7 posted on 03/25/2003 2:39:37 PM PST by theFIRMbss (<laughs>)
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To: Guardian_John
Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said the U.S. military had its own plan to address such an attack but he would not reveal details.

Time to use the big fan.

8 posted on 03/25/2003 2:40:40 PM PST by toast
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To: Guardian_John
Unfortunately for this issue, though of course necessary overall, Saddam will indeed reach the point of 'last resort.' The only hope is to blow past them so fast they're too disorganized to realize they've reached that point until we've overrun their WMDs.

Interesting, isn't it, that this is exactly the strategy we're pursuing?

The second case where they might be used is when we find a lot of the prohibited weapons and the world has to accept that evidence. Then why not use whatever they've got left? All that will die are 'ordinary' Iraqis and maybe a few troops, and the infidels of course.
9 posted on 03/25/2003 2:42:15 PM PST by Gorjus
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To: Guardian_John
If we've found any Iraqi protective chemwar suits it would behoove us to check them out and see if they are in any better than our own....
10 posted on 03/25/2003 2:44:06 PM PST by merak
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To: merak
Don't bother. Do you really think Saddamn gives a darn about his troops?
11 posted on 03/25/2003 2:44:47 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: Guardian_John
Rumor has it, the presence of ursine spoor in the woods might indicate the presence of bears.

Saddam has two trump cards: suicide killers with conventional weopons, and suicide killers with WMD...he will use both.

I think these suits are meant to give the Iraqi 'troops' the idea they can use the poison with impunity...I wager that without U.S. Military training and discipline, not to mention the shitty gear Saddam gives them, the Iraqis will die by their own hand, while their commanders retreat to what they hope is safety.

Saddam would gas 5,000 of his own in order to gas our troops.

We are going to give the modern world a lesson in fury, and just what companssionate conservatism can mean.

12 posted on 03/25/2003 2:47:11 PM PST by jwfiv
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To: jwfiv
I heard that their gas masks were brand new (made in 2002), and looked remarkably like our gas masks. It is quite possible that they have some decent protection for their WMD, as they have shown time and time again that their priorities are on such things rather than food for their people. Plus they have the advantage of knowing what to prepare for.
13 posted on 03/25/2003 2:50:37 PM PST by EaglesUpForever (Ne messez pas avec le US)
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To: Gorjus
The fact that Saddam issues the order does not mean that his generals will use it. Military folk tend to be more practical than their civilian counterparts.
14 posted on 03/25/2003 2:53:22 PM PST by XJarhead
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To: Guardian_John
One good military article I read said that in military terms, chemical weapons are not really WMD but rather "area denial" weapons...designed to deny enemy forces access or passage to a particular area, as in the approach to Baghdad. Since our troops will have reasonable protection, casualties from any chemical attack will probably be light. The bright spot in all this is that in order to continue "area denial", the vaporised chemical agents must remain in the area, close to the ground and in sufficient concentration to be effective.

With winds whipping up sandstorms across Iraq, even a heavy chemical attack on any area would be blown away in minutes. There might be some persistent residue on the ground and on vehicles, clothing etc for some time, but this can be dealt with. It's clouds of toxic vapor that kills troops and denies assault. To maintain any sort of denial, the chemical attack would have to be continued for a long time in order to keep a cloud over the area they want to protect, and they can't keep shelling forever. The real losers in this scenario could be the noncombatant residents of Iraq who don't know what's coming and have no protection.

15 posted on 03/25/2003 2:54:57 PM PST by Sender
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To: mewzilla
Don't bother. Do you really think Saddamn gives a darn about his troops?

That's not what I meant. I measnt that, if his chem suits were for any reason better than ours, we might have a problem, i.e. ours might NEED to be better.

16 posted on 03/25/2003 3:00:44 PM PST by merak
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To: Guardian_John
Our troops have also found Atropeen (sp), used keep you alive after a nerve agent release in dead Iraqis' gear.

A gas mask you keep just in case tear gas or smoke grenades are used.

Atropeen is harder for Iraqis to get and only used if they know nerve agents will be used.
17 posted on 03/25/2003 3:01:31 PM PST by anymouse
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To: EaglesUpForever
Good info...thanks. And, true...Saddam takes care of his favorites better than his citizens...hmmm, I wonder...3,000 suits may indicate that number out-of-uniform fedayeen are there, blended into the bazaar.

Our troops have thier work cut out for them, to be sure.

18 posted on 03/25/2003 3:22:43 PM PST by jwfiv
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To: Guardian_John
Or they could be the precautionary equipment of a well-supplied army battling the world's mightiest military.

It's nice we have unbiased news organisations such as AP to keep us accurately informed.

19 posted on 03/25/2003 3:23:47 PM PST by What Is Ain't
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