This (anonymous) editorial is so completely inaccurate it could have been written by Jayson Blair. But, he signs all his work, so I guess it must be someone else.
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2 posted on
06/10/2003 5:35:42 AM PDT by
Copernicus
(A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
To: Copernicus
I remember when the Times-Disgrace had a conservative editorial page....
3 posted on
06/10/2003 5:36:41 AM PDT by
GodBlessRonaldReagan
(where is Count Petofi when we need him most?)
To: Copernicus
What everyday citizen among us needs an assault weapon any more than he needs a machine gun, flame-thrower, bazooka, or tank? Not sure what his point is here, but here's my response.
What everyday citizen reporter among us needs a word processing computer any more than he needs a fountain pen and inkwell?
4 posted on
06/10/2003 5:41:01 AM PDT by
ActionNewsBill
(Police state? What police state?)
To: Copernicus
Do New York City policemen with machine guns need to be involved in shootouts on the streets?
5 posted on
06/10/2003 5:44:37 AM PDT by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
To: Copernicus
I'm sure this author thought (s)he was espousing a conservative position. (S)He botched it badly.
6 posted on
06/10/2003 5:46:58 AM PDT by
Movemout
To: Copernicus
Guns - specifically assault weapons: We concur generally with President Bush's position in support of a ban on the sale and possession of truly automatic (assault) weapons - e.g., those weapons that fire multiple rounds when the trigger is pulled but once, and keep firing until the trigger is released or the magazine spent.George W. Bush has not enunciated such a stand regarding civilian ownership of machine guns which are covered under the National Firearms Act which is not up for review
Revolvers, semi-automatics, rifles, and shotguns for self-defense and hunting, with instant background checks at time of purchase, are one thing. Actual fully automatic assault weapons (as opposed to so-called assault weapons that are not fully automatic) are something else entirely,NFA controlled weapons that are machine guns. The only crime ever committed with an NFA registered machine gun legally possessed was done by a police officer. with little justification for possession by - or sale to - anyone other than the military and law enforcement authorities. What everyday citizen among us needs an assault weapon any more than he needs a machine gun, flame-thrower, bazooka, or tank?Since the author above mentioned the difference between a semi-automatic and a fully automatic this sentence must be considered intentional obfuscation.
7 posted on
06/10/2003 6:02:46 AM PDT by
harpseal
(Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
To: Copernicus
If "assault weapons" are just good for killing lots of people, why do police need them?
8 posted on
06/10/2003 6:16:13 AM PDT by
Citizen Tom Paine
(An armed person is a citizen, an unarmed person is a subject.)
To: Copernicus
1) It's a Bill of Rights, not a Bill of Needs. 2)I do in fact need a fully automatic weapon, since it is the standard weapon of our military, and I am of a gender and age which make me eligible for militia service. 3)How can the militia be well-regulated if they cannot buy the standard military weapon? They cannot. Being able to share ammunition and parts in the field (e.g. magazines, bolts) is a requirement, not a "nice to have." 4) A government which comtemplated the use of private naval vessels (Letters of Marque) in its Constitution, certainly may not restrict the ownership of semi-automatic rifles and still maintain a consistent interpretation of the 2nd Amendment.
9 posted on
06/10/2003 6:16:19 AM PDT by
RKV
To: Copernicus
Guns - specifically assault weapons: We concur generally with President Bush's position in support of a ban on the sale and possession of truly automatic (assault) weapons - e.g., those weapons that fire multiple rounds when the trigger is pulled but once, and keep firing until the trigger is released or the magazine spent. It sounds like what this guy is trying to say is that semi-autos are not military weapons and should not be called "assault weapons", and that's an important distinction to be made in the press. I think most of us would agree on that part.
Unfortunately, he is wrong, semi-autos were the target of the AW ban, by people who purposely misled people into thinking that the ban affected military weapons. And now that's what he supports. Basically the 1934 restrictions (taxation actually) on full-autos, not the Feinstein Law.
10 posted on
06/10/2003 6:20:30 AM PDT by
Kenton
To: Copernicus
This appears to be a poorly written article against fully automatic weapons... which is sophistry at best as they have been illegal in the US for quite some time.
One would hope that the mess is intentional rather than just another really sloppy editorial.
To: Copernicus
"if sovereign grants are deemed the way, then those grants should be accompanied by mandates "
LOL. The author has a different idea of "sovereign" than I do. But I guess as long as it's for their own good, it's ok. </sarcasm>
13 posted on
06/10/2003 6:48:25 AM PDT by
m1911
To: Copernicus
"We should like herewith to make our positions clear."
I'd say you failed.
14 posted on
06/10/2003 6:49:45 AM PDT by
m1911
To: Copernicus
As I read the editorial, it sounds to me as if they are advocating a situation
status quo ante the AWB. That is, they are opposed to controls on semi-auto weapons, and feel that only full auto weapons should be subject to the AWB.
While this is incrementalism, it is an improvement from the current situation; we can fight the provisions of the 1934 GCA another day.
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