NASA: Planet Formed 13 Billion Years Ago

Yahoo! News ^ | 7/10/03 | Deborah Zabarenko - Reuters

[whattajoke]

Old Planet Ping

[Doctor Stochastic]

Well, the fight is against the legitimacy of scientific inquiry, not just against evolution. The Creationists and the PostModern-Deconstructionists have identical agendas. Both want to replace scientific inquiry by their own subjective feelings.

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Colorizing images is not based on imagination, any more that a graph of data is based on imagination. In both cases, data is translated from raw numbers to a form we can better understand.

Do you agree that all translating includes an element of interpretation? BTW - I like the pretty colors. I think they sell more Newsweeks and stuff.

[BMCDA]

LOL!! Don't want to know what illegal substance influenced the imagination of the guy who colorized this image ;^)

[kjam22]

The IRS should make a little check box on 1040 that says "what percent of your taxes do you want to go to astronomy and or study of the universe." And I would be very much in favor of all those dollars that people choose to spend on it going there.

[AndrewC]

5,600 light-years from Earth in the constellation Scorpius. A light-year is about 6 trillion miles, about the distance light travels in a year.

8.85771E-34

[razorbak]

I believe the biblical account of Creation. And I would reject evolution regardless of what the Bible says, on scientific grounds alone. But the Bible nowhere even attempts to say how old the earth is. I don't hold to the day-age theory that some do concerning the days of creation. But I'm not referring to that. I'm talking about when God created the matter and energy that make up the universe.

[balrog666]

The IRS should make a little check box on 1040 that says "what percent of your taxes do you want to go to astronomy and or study of the universe." And I would be very much in favor of all those dollars that people choose to spend on it going there.

Sure. And add checkoffs for the DOD, DOE, DOS, CIA, FBI, ATF, etc. so I can spend my tax dollars on what I want. Too bad it's a "probability zero" event.

[Doctor Stochastic]

The same suggestion has been made by others.

What % of your tax dollars do you want to go to the military?

What % of your tax dollars do you want to go to foreign aid?

What % of your tax dollars do you want to go to Homeland Security?

What % of your tax dollars do you want to go to airline subsidies?

Etc.



What % of your tax dollars

[kjam22]

Yep.... Designated funds. A scary thought for those on capitol hill.

[Aric2000]

Reject evolution on "scientific" grounds?

That's an oxymoron if I've ever heard one.

[Jeff Gordon]

What % of your tax dollars...

Now that would be a good test for liberals vs conservatives. Add up the total percentages they allocate. If the total is over 100%, they are liberal. Otherwise they are conservative.

[Doctor Stochastic]

If the total is over 100%, they are liberal.

That's OK. Just have them responsible for their own shortfall.

[js1138]

Do you agree that all translating includes an element of interpretation?

Dose drawing a line graph from a dataset involve interpretation? Possibly. But you can reconstrict the data from the graph if you include an indicator of the data points.

The colorized image is a reversable transform of the data points.

[js1138]

The IRS should make a little check box on 1040 that says "what percent of your taxes do you want to go to astronomy and or study of the universe." And I would be very much in favor of all those dollars that people choose to spend on it going there.

I'll vote for that. But it should include all government spending.

[js1138]

About ten years ago the United Way had a huge financial scandal. The next year the corporate donation forms included a dozen pages of check-offs for how you wanted your money spent. They had general categories, narrow categories, and programs right down to the street addresses of day care centers.

[js1138]

Dose=does.

[PatrickHenry]

P L A C E M A R K E R

[MitchellC]

What the devilare you talking about? You have to be religious fanatic in order to be conservative? You have to be a fundamentalist in order to have a consistent worldview? Where do you live? Geez? You sir, need to get a grip.

You, sir, need to learn how to read.

The YECs at least have a worldview that involves 1.) a universal standard of morality and 2.) purpose to human existence, which no atheist can have.

Those beliefs aren't unique to YECs, and I wasn't implying that they were. Sure, you can be "conservative" - whatever THAT really means these days - and not be a YEC. But you can't call it consistent to say that humanity exists without a pre-ordained purpose and that YOU somehow have any 'rights' that anyone else ought to recognize.

No wonder so many non-theists are leftists. They're being a little more consistent.

[RadioAstronomer]

Thanks for the ping! :-) Interesting read.