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Lack of planning contributed to chaos in Iraq (No real planning for postwar Iraq)
Mercury News ^ | 7/11/03 | Jonathan S. Landay and Warren P. Strobel - Knight Ridder

Posted on 07/11/2003 6:56:46 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:31:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON - The small circle of senior civilians in the Defense Department who dominated planning for postwar Iraq failed to prepare for the setbacks that have erupted over the past two months.

The officials didn't develop any real postwar plans because they believed that Iraqis would welcome U.S. troops with open arms and Washington could install a favored Iraqi exile leader as the country's leader. The Pentagon civilians ignored CIA and State Department experts who disputed them, resisted White House pressure to back off from their favored exile leader and when their scenario collapsed amid increasing violence and disorder, they had no backup plan.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; norealplanning; planning; postwar
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1 posted on 07/11/2003 6:56:46 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
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2 posted on 07/11/2003 6:59:03 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Support FRee Republic ..... http://www.DRAFTTOM.com ..... Semper Fi)
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3 posted on 07/11/2003 7:00:44 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: NormsRevenge
A lot of unamed sources making tons of accusations. Who would believe anything coming from Knight-Ridder?
4 posted on 07/11/2003 7:22:06 PM PDT by LarryM
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To: NormsRevenge
The constant criticism of the Iraq effort is not helping the situation. The time span since it's beginning has been so short.

Hell, I would ask them if they could plan a simple event that would be attended by some 1500 people and see how long it takes to arrange catering, power, insurance, seating, security, lighting, entertainment and the like.

In Iraq we have an event attended by millions! And, there were no vendors to call, no resources and no patient people.(

Just angry ones with guns and grenades.

5 posted on 07/11/2003 7:22:41 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Negotiate!! .............(((Blam!.)))........... "Now who else wants to negotiate?")
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To: LarryM
Who would believe anything coming from Knight-Ridder?

LOL.. I can think of a few million gullible characters in this country, and I don't mean the Kerry & Dean supporters.

It's been years since the local paper graced my driveway, but they continue to pump out propaganda .. so I just hang their dirty laundry out here for FRee for all to see.

6 posted on 07/11/2003 7:31:51 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Support FRee Republic ..... http://www.DRAFTTOM.com ..... Semper Fi)
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To: LarryM
Exactly. Just count the number of "former" this and "former" that. My rhetorical question is, why are they "former?"
7 posted on 07/11/2003 7:52:27 PM PDT by arasina (I'm not sure if I really care for indecisive people. Maybe I do; maybe not.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Yep, let's stop playing games. Knight Ridder is lying. Our guys are kicking bad guy derriere DAILY. Knight Ridder and their fellow DNC PR agents are endangering our troops DAILY. There OUGHT to be a LAW.

The TRUE Capitol Hill Blue story the PRESS IGNORED:'Dems plan to undermine America to beat Bush'
FR - thru Capitol Hill Blue ^ | January 6, 2003 | DOUG THOMPSON

 

On June 10 - Saddam's bad guys killed one of our brave soldiers and wounded another.
 
CENTCOM released more than a casualty report on June 10.
 
On June 10 - their fellow Soldiers, Airmen, Marines and Guard - men and women in uniform -did this to Saddam's bad guys:    
 
ONE DAY IN IRAQ

8 posted on 07/11/2003 7:58:36 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl (We're in a global war on terrorism..If you want to call that a quagmire, do it. I don't.*Rummy* 6-30)
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To: wirestripper
"The constant criticism of the Iraq effort is not helping the situation."

It's....

TREASON!!!


9 posted on 07/11/2003 8:00:46 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The psychological operations guys were betting a lot on their effectiveness in this operation. If they had been correct, hardly any post-war effort would have been needed.

Just as the Iraqis didn't respond to the pre-war propaganda, the entire country isn't responding as they probably planned.

Rumsfeld was incredibly cost-conscious, so he may have bet on the success of the psychological warfare guys.
10 posted on 07/11/2003 8:04:27 PM PDT by ZEEGIRL
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To: DannyTN
Hey - that would be a really good book title!

;-)
11 posted on 07/11/2003 8:06:07 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: NormsRevenge
Just one question?

If there was no planning for post iraq then why did we send thousands of Doctors that specialize in non combat wounds and why did we have 30 huge ships sitting off the coast with food?

12 posted on 07/11/2003 8:07:35 PM PDT by america-rules (I'm one proud American right now !)
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To: FreedomPoster
"Hey - that would be a really good book title! "

Yes, Ann's unleashed a monster. I never realized how fun that word, is until I started applying it to democrats. That's makes seven or eight things I've labeled as treason today.

13 posted on 07/11/2003 8:09:47 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Since when has re-building a country after decades of dictatorship and a war been a 4 month job? Why is the press consistently unable to understand that some things just take time? How can anyone still take these clowns seriously?
14 posted on 07/11/2003 8:10:55 PM PDT by Sofa King (-I am Sofa King- tired of liberal BS!)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; All
Just a wee bit more before I chuck today's issue of the Murky Noise.. This is the lead editorial .. in sync with the article, ... but it does praise the pre-war planning, oddly enough.

Bush postwar strategy MIA
IT'S TIME FOR WHITE HOUSE TO LEVEL WITH US
Mercury News Editorial

The military has put a $25 million bounty for the head of Saddam. Maybe the Pentagon should offer a fat reward to whoever finds the master plan for rebuilding Iraq.

It'll likely go unclaimed. A coherent strategy for democratizing and reconstructing Iraq doesn't exist, or, if it does, it's been Washington's best-kept secret.

In the months preceding the invasion, the Pentagon did a splendid job planning the war but an inadequate job preparing for what was to follow. Given the administration's ingrained disdain toward nation building -- and the lack of anyone important in charge of it -- that inattention was not surprising.

With new admissions of faulty intelligence, the rationale to invade Iraq is looking ever more suspect. Having toppled Saddam, there can be no turning back or, at this point, scaling back, the reconstruction. Bringing stability and freedom to Iraq is essential to security in the region -- and to America's credibility.

Three months after the fall of Baghdad, it's far too early to condemn the U.S. effort as a failure. What is becoming clear, however, is that success will require more money, more time, better planning and possibly more troops. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and General Tommy Franks said this week that the monthly cost of keeping troops in Iraq has doubled to $3.8 billion per month and that the number won't be substantially reduced for the forseeable future.

It will also take more peace-keeping involvement by other countries, though the administration has been loath to admit and hesitant to pursue this.

Since President Bush declared the war over on May 1, more than 70 U.S. soldiers have died -- 31 in combat. Americans are becoming uneasy over the toll and anxious about the future.

If he wants to sustain support at home for rebuilding Iraq, Bush owes Americans his best, most honest assessment about the likely duration and the price of a long-term commitment. He must state the goals clearly and offer a road map to getting there, just as he has in the Mideast. He should do the same for the Iraqis, who have become increasingly agitated over their misery and suspicious over the failure to include them in a transitional government. Bush's offhand comment Thursday on the situation -- ``We're going to have to remain tough'' -- isn't specific enough.

A senior American official told the Mercury News' editorial board that Iraq's electrical grid, sewage and water systems were in far worse condition than the Pentagon expected. Widespread looting and sabotage are hampering U.S. efforts; continuing guerrilla attacks are diverting attention from reconstruction.

So, it's appropriate for Bush to ask Americans for patience. And it's just as appropriate for Americans to ask Bush to level with them -- and to find that missing plan.

15 posted on 07/11/2003 8:34:17 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Support FRee Republic ..... http://www.DRAFTTOM.com ..... Semper Fi)
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To: DannyTN
It is most certainly NOT treason, sir, have you taken leave of your senses?

The critics may be right, and they may be wrong. However, it is not inconsistent with the errors and worse of previous administrations to believe that this administration did not plan properly to administer Iraq as it really is, and that the result of such planning is before your own eyes on a daily basis.

There is no one to the right of me on Iraq, as I would have turned the whole place into green glass on 9-12-01 just to show people how pissed off we were. Anything that killed or displaced Saddam is fine with me.

However, it is absurd that we did not create and staff POW cages for several hundred thousand Iraqi soldiers (or kill them on sight).

WHY we did not do this is a matter of opinion, but it is certainly credible that we did not do so because of an internationalist fantasy about what conditions in Iraq would be like after the fall of the regime.

Iraq is full of people who hate us, who are seething with resentment and who will try to kill our soldiers at the first available chance. It is MOST unclear that the number and disposition of our forces either anticipated or is now prepared to deal with this reality.

And to advocate for adequacy of numbers, supplies, strategy and tactics on behalf of our forces in not treason, sir, and you are greatly mistaken to call it such.

16 posted on 07/11/2003 8:47:44 PM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble
nice post..
17 posted on 07/11/2003 8:56:15 PM PDT by chasio649
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To: Jim Noble
"It is most certainly NOT treason, sir, have you taken leave of your senses?"

Mostly what I've heard as critism of our Iraq policies is pointless political sniping. That's what I'm referring to as treason. It has not had practically any constructive ideas. And it's largely dealt with pointless regurgitation of was the war justified after the fact. It serves no purpose except to try to increase dissatisfaction with Bush, but in the process it also encourages our enemies.

Now it turns out that you are one of the few that have alternative ideas to the way Bush is prosecuting this war. You suggest turning Iraq into a glass see or summarily executing hundreds of thousands of Iraqi prisioners.

I don't suppose I can call your ideas treason. For I don't know whether we would have fewer American casualties or whether we would so inflame the middle east, that we would have to turn the entire muslim world into glass.

No your ideas are definitely not treason!. Your ideas are....

Barbaric!!!

But at least you have the welfare of our troops at heart and I appreciate that.

18 posted on 07/11/2003 9:05:15 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I am so sick of Liberal reporters.Don't buy a newspaper or mag.until they start telling the truth.All that crap is liberal lies.
19 posted on 07/11/2003 11:49:50 PM PDT by noutopia
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To: NormsRevenge
Leftist have become a threat to democracy everywhere...
20 posted on 07/11/2003 11:55:28 PM PDT by Porterville (I support US total global, world domination; how's that for sensitive??)
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