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Republican History Revealed

Posted on 07/23/2003 10:03:09 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit

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To: justshutupandtakeit
Hamilton never argued for a BIG government centralized or no.

Oh, of course not. I know all the Founding Fathers were just jim dandy with having any form of monarch, elected or not

Hamilton's use of the dreaded "M" word set alarm bells ringing to the exclusion of everything else he said concerning the subject. From Madison's notes: "It will be objected probably, that [an Executive for life] will be an elective Monarch, and will give birth to the tumults which characterize that form of Gov[ernmen]t. He w[oul]d reply that Monarch is an indefinite term. It marks not either the degree or duration of power. If the Executive Magistrate wd. be a monarch for life--the other prop[ose]d by the Report . . . wd. be a Monarch for seven years."

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The following day Hamilton was taken to task for his remarks on state sovereignty, which some construed as a call for the abolition of states. Hamilton responded that he had been misunderstood, and explained that he did not advocate a complete abolition of the states, only a diminution of their status as political entities to ensure the preponderance of the federal government.

Nope, no big strong government there < /sarcasm>

Alexander Hamilton bio

21 posted on 07/23/2003 11:33:05 AM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Grand Old Partisan
Fair enough. He'll probably be running for the Senate next year, so you can really let him have it then.

Depends on how conservative his politics are. If he's a conservative, he'll probably gain my general support. If he's a RINO or a PC monger, I will work to defeat him in the primary.

22 posted on 07/23/2003 11:33:42 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
No more hints than this, but he's a rising star in the GOP and could well be President some day.

23 posted on 07/23/2003 11:35:54 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: Constitution Day
You whine just like a democrat
24 posted on 07/23/2003 11:37:55 AM PDT by mac_truck
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To: Grand Old Partisan
No more hints than this, but he's a rising star in the GOP and could well be President some day.

As with all GOP candidates, I will devote my advocacy resources toward either furthering that star's rise or initiating its decline depending upon whether or not it is conservative. Not all Republicans are conservative and not all conservatives are Republican.

25 posted on 07/23/2003 11:41:47 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: mac_truck
You whine just like a democrat

As opposed to you, a person who takes political positions as if he was a democrat.

26 posted on 07/23/2003 11:42:49 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
Conservatives who do not firmly support Republican candidates thereby contribute to Democrat victories, and so are the real RINOs.
27 posted on 07/23/2003 11:44:28 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: mac_truck; Jim Robinson
You whine just like a democrat

Obviously, you need some remedial reading comprehension classes, for those are Jim Robinson's words, not mine.
Are you saying that Jim is whining like a Democrat? Huh?

28 posted on 07/23/2003 11:48:39 AM PDT by Constitution Day (THIS TAGLINE IS OFFICIALLY A PETERSON-FREE ZONE!)
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To: mac_truck
By the way, I got your nasty little FRmail. Get bent.
29 posted on 07/23/2003 11:49:20 AM PDT by Constitution Day (THIS TAGLINE IS OFFICIALLY A PETERSON-FREE ZONE!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Having not read the book, I reserve comment to your review and Partisan's FR posts - neither are convincing.

The review is void of facts and details but makes broad-sweeping assumptions. Is the book the same way?

30 posted on 07/23/2003 11:55:07 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Constitution Day
I got your nasty little FRmail.

Agreed this is a disgraceful way to get attention. Contributors to this forum do not appreciate spam via FReepmail and pushing goods and services.

31 posted on 07/23/2003 11:58:52 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
The treasonous tendencies within the Democratic Party did not begin recently but go back to the Civil War, making neo-Confederates calling themselves Republicans and patriots such a joke.
32 posted on 07/23/2003 12:03:36 PM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: stainlessbanner
I'll read the book. I'm sure it is excellent political combat, which is great. However, I have reservations concerning the historical merits - based on book synopsis and the author's FR posts.
33 posted on 07/23/2003 12:04:13 PM PDT by Lee_Atwater
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To: Constitution Day
I'd say its way past your nap time.
34 posted on 07/23/2003 12:10:51 PM PDT by mac_truck
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To: Lee_Atwater; Ohioan
I have reservations concerning the historical merits

Agreed. I choose not to blast the text, at least until I've actually read it. The author chooses to reignite regional and sectional hostilities from the past with his posts on FR. This does nothing to promote conservativism - in fact, it's more detremental to conservatives.

Alienating the the conservative base by dredging up civil war history will not help the GOP.

35 posted on 07/23/2003 12:12:21 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: mac_truck
Jeez, get some new material, loser.
36 posted on 07/23/2003 12:12:52 PM PDT by Constitution Day (THIS TAGLINE IS OFFICIALLY A PETERSON-FREE ZONE!)
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To: stainlessbanner
The book is filled with facts that democRATs and their supporters will not like.

Facts are useless when it comes to convincing the D.S.s. They pretend they are just lies and remain in love with falsehoods supporting their warped and incorrect view of history. Just as they are useless in talking to Bushbashers.
Love of fantasies overrides concern with the truth.
37 posted on 07/23/2003 12:14:55 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: stainlessbanner
I have never denigrated the South, in the book or on Free Republic. Actually, it is an insult to southern heritage for neo-Confederates to claim that during the Civil War everyone South of the Mason-Dixon line was a traitor. In fact, 200,000 southern blacks and 100,000 southern whites fought for the United States of America while millions of northern Democrats collaborated with their rebel brethren of the Confederacy.
38 posted on 07/23/2003 12:16:45 PM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: billbears
Nope, no big government there.

Thanks for posting the bio. Too bad you didn't read it. Or if you did, didn't understand what it said. Try again.
39 posted on 07/23/2003 12:19:46 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: stainlessbanner
Alienating the the conservative base by dredging up civil war history will not help the GOP

Thats rich. What ELSE do you neo-confedrate anke-biters do around here BUT that?

40 posted on 07/23/2003 12:20:47 PM PDT by mac_truck
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