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Amateur mathematician's time theories published at last
New Zealand Herald ^ | 31.07.2003 11.04 am | NZPA

Posted on 07/31/2003 1:01:59 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander

Amateur mathematician's time theories published at last

31.07.2003 11.04 am

University drop-out Peter Lynds, 27, of Wellington says he has further plans for mathematical and philosophical explorations after publication of his theories on the nature of time.

Mr Lynds, who studied at university for just six months, said his paper, Time and Classical and Quantum Mechanics: Indeterminacy vs Discontinuity, was being published in the August issue of a Dutch-based journal, Foundations of Physics Letters. The journal specialises in rapid dissemination of research in theoretical or mathematical physics, or the philosophy of science.

Now a broadcasting school tutor, Mr Lynds said his paper established that there was a necessary trade-off of all precisely determined physical values at a time, for their continuity through time.

In effect, he argues that any moving object is never "at rest", and that the concept of time being broken into specific moments is only a human perception.

"No matter how small the time interval, or how slowly an object moves during that interval, it is still in motion and its position is constantly changing, so it can't have a determined relative position at any time, whether during an interval, however small, or at an instant," he said in a statement. "If it did, it couldn't be in motion".

He said today the argument challenged age-old assumptions about time and space.

Mr Lynds said developing his theories had been a struggle and that as an outsider he had found working with some academics "extremely frustrating".

"The work is somewhat unlikely, and that hasn't done me any favours. If someone has been aware of it, my seeming lack of qualification has sometimes been a hurdle too," he said.

"I think quite a few physicists and philosophers have difficulty getting their heads around the topic of time properly.

"I'm not a big fan of quite a few aspects of academia, but I'd like to think that what's happened with the work is a good example of perseverance and a few other things eventually winning through," Mr Lynds said. "It's reassuring to know that happens."

Mr Lynds initially discussed his work with Victoria University physicist Professor Chris Grigson, who recalls him as determined.

"I thought the idea was hard to understand," said Prof Grigson, who is now retired. "He is theorising in an area that most people think is settled. Most people believe there are a succession of moments and that objects in motion have determined positions."

But Mr Lynds said some other physicists "sniggered" when he originally approached them with the work, and one even tried to persuade a scientific journal not to publish it because of the lack of formal academic qualifications.

The paper also addressed other physics issues to do with time, including cosmology, and mounted an argument against the theory of "imaginary time" proposed by British theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking.

The seven-page paper argues that it has the correct solution to motion and infinity paradoxes -- excluding one known as "the Stadium" -- originally conceived by the ancient Greek philosopher Zeno of Elea over 2500 years ago.

"With his deceivingly profound and perplexing paradoxes, I think Zeno of Elea was a true visionary, and in a sense, over 2500 years ahead of his time," Mr Lynds said. His plans for the near future include the publication of a paper specificially on Zeno's paradoxes themselves in the journal Philosophy of Science, and a paper relating time to consciousness.

He also plans to explore his work further in connection to quantum mechanics and is hopeful others will do the same.

- NZPA



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: hawkings; math; philosophytime; quantum; science; stadium; stringtheory; theories; time; zenoofelea
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It can only be hoped this man can shake up the "settled" field and give Prof. Hawkings a run for his money. Many pointy heads are questioning the diplomas and letters after their names at this moment. So, nothing is ever still, once once in motion.
1 posted on 07/31/2003 1:01:59 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: JerseyHighlander
"No matter how small the time interval, or how slowly an object moves during that interval, it is still in motion and its position is constantly changing..."

...and time is a measurement of the duration of that movement. It seems that matter and energy are more important than time and space.

2 posted on 07/31/2003 1:09:36 AM PDT by Consort
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To: JerseyHighlander
But Mr Lynds said some other physicists "sniggered" when he originally approached them with the work . . .

I can understand why. Sounds like another Archimedes Plutonium to me.

3 posted on 07/31/2003 1:10:28 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: *Philosophy Time
Bump
4 posted on 07/31/2003 1:12:43 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: LibWhacker; Physicist
I can understand why. Sounds like another Archimedes Plutonium to me.

Yes, sounds like crap, the article is not posted yet:Foundations of Physics Letters

When it is posted we will probably have Fun time. (pun intended)
5 posted on 07/31/2003 1:27:57 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: LibWhacker; Physicist; AdmSmith; longshadow
Archimedes Plutonium

LOL! There is a name I haven't heard in quite a while.

6 posted on 07/31/2003 1:32:29 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
pi is infinite and circles are just imaginary constructs ... everything moves --- science never changes !!
7 posted on 07/31/2003 1:42:54 AM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: AdmSmith; RadioAstronomer; Physicist
Found a little bit more about this guy's "theory" here. Wonder if he wrote it himself? Never heard of Khrennikov, but throwing around Wheeler's name and the favorable comparison to Einstein is a bit much!
8 posted on 07/31/2003 1:51:46 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: RadioAstronomer
LOL . . . I hold an honored position in the annals of Archy: He put me on his list of mortals whom he has condemned to cross the River Styx. LOL, the guy thinks he's God. (And all I did was suggest he see a shrink.)
9 posted on 07/31/2003 1:56:24 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: JerseyHighlander
Now a broadcasting school tutor, Mr Lynds said his paper established that there was a necessary trade-off of all precisely determined physical values at a time, for their continuity through time.

O.K. What I want to know is how many significant digits we have to go out to to notice?

10 posted on 07/31/2003 1:57:25 AM PDT by FairWitness
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To: LibWhacker
Archimedes Plutonium

LOL. Is the dishwasher still making noise on the newsgroups?

11 posted on 07/31/2003 2:17:57 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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To: LibWhacker
Archimedes Plutonium

I remember my dad complaining about him when I was a kid....

12 posted on 07/31/2003 2:21:51 AM PDT by jude24 ("Moods change. Truth does not. " - Dr. Ravi Zacharias)
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To: JerseyHighlander
We always should remember that Einstein was working as a Swiss postal clerk when he published his theory of relativity.

Actually, I'd enjoy it if some bright young mathematician came along and upset the physics world again. It does happen every so often.

As far as the academics trying to keep his work from being published because he isn't credentialled, it seems to me that in physics and math, the work should stand or fall on its merits alone, not on the opinions of the author's academic credentials.
13 posted on 07/31/2003 6:04:18 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Consort
It seems that matter and energy are more important than time and space.

Neither can exist without the other. Matter-energy cannot exist without space-time to contain it, and space-time would not exist if it was not containing matter-energy.

Visualize a universe consisting of no particles. It would have no dimension, and no duration could be measured.

In a universe of only one particle, there could be no measurement of acceleration or rotation without a wider context of other particles to have that acceleration or rotation be relative to.

In a universe of only two particles, there could be measured motion, but which one was accelerating would be a matter of opinion.

The physical laws of our universe only become meaningful (or come into existance) in a universe of many particles

14 posted on 07/31/2003 6:21:37 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer === needs a job at the moment)
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To: George W. Bush
We always should remember that Einstein was working as a Swiss postal clerk when he published his theory of relativity.

Actually, it was as a patent clerk, in the patent office

15 posted on 07/31/2003 6:22:58 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer === needs a job at the moment)
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To: FairWitness
O.K. What I want to know is how many significant digits we have to go out to to notice?

I was just getting used to the notion that QM set a lower limit to units of time -- something to do with Planck length.

16 posted on 07/31/2003 6:39:35 AM PDT by js1138
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To: SauronOfMordor
The physical laws of our universe only become meaningful (or come into existance) in a universe of many particles.

You only say that because that's the only sort of universe you've ever lived in... You really should get out more, you know. =]

17 posted on 07/31/2003 6:41:51 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: JerseyHighlander
His plans for the near future include the publication of a paper specificially on Zeno's paradoxes themselves in the journal Philosophy of Science, and a paper relating time to consciousness.

Where is that BS meter gif? Any physics paper that includes consciousness is bullsh*t.

18 posted on 07/31/2003 6:42:26 AM PDT by mikegi
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To: SauronOfMordor
Patent clerk doesn't sound like a job for a genius unless you think about it.
19 posted on 07/31/2003 6:43:46 AM PDT by js1138
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To: js1138
O.K. What I want to know is how many significant digits we have to go out to to notice?

That's an empirical consideration of a fundamental theory... for this guy's purposes, he doesn't give a flip!

(Which, of course, is not to say it's a bad question...)

20 posted on 07/31/2003 6:43:56 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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