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Ground-Breaking Srebrenica Guilty Plea
global policy ^ | Emir Suljagic

Posted on 08/09/2003 8:13:24 AM PDT by alternatediscourse

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he flows with the go, a follower whose word can not be counted on as this individual is easily swayed then bought at a nominal price.

and he had a solid nationalist reputation. All this will lend him credibility among the Serb community as well as on the witness stand.--- The Serbian people know who he was- a former communist opportunist and a nationalist opportunist. He does not hold any special sway nor influence amongst the Serbs. They just see him as buying his way out of a life sentence.

1 posted on 08/09/2003 8:13:24 AM PDT by alternatediscourse
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To: alternatediscourse
Any chance that the rest of those VRS killers living in Bratunac, Srebrenica and parts surrounding, who personally carried out genocide at Srebrenica, will be brought to justice? In this life, I mean.

Inquiring minds want to know. In the mean time, hold not your breath and don't bet the rent.
2 posted on 08/09/2003 8:20:25 AM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones
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To: alternatediscourse
Actually, your description of this guy can be used by ANY Serb against ANY other Serb who actually admits to war crimes. Great way of dodging responsibility. "Nobody here but us anti-Milosevicists." Yup.
3 posted on 08/09/2003 8:21:47 AM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
Remind yourself this is a Bosnian Muslim reporter for a biased journalist site. For future reference, seek Scott Taylor's writings for accuracy in media.

From what I understand, RB, U.S military understands who the bad guys are in Bosnia. Camp NJ and NW SFOR HQ surely know who the good guys are- the Serbs. Do you deny that accuracy?

4 posted on 08/09/2003 8:33:16 AM PDT by alternatediscourse (Rasa)
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones; joan
Why are some of your Srebrenica muslim dead showing up, alive and well in St Louis, Mo?
5 posted on 08/09/2003 8:42:26 AM PDT by alternatediscourse (Rasa)
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To: alternatediscourse
In Florida as well.
6 posted on 08/09/2003 9:08:15 AM PDT by Lion in Winter
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To: alternatediscourse
Really?
7 posted on 08/09/2003 9:36:36 AM PDT by bluester
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To: Ronly Bonly Jones
Those of us who were watching at the time know that there is a heck of a lot more to this story than the one-sided evil-Serb routine we've heard continuously since 1992.

Who gains, I wonder, by painting the Serbs as the aggressors and initiators of the succession of post-communist Balkan wars?

When it really mattered, the Serbs were with us fighting the Nazis and the Muslims were collaborators. More recently, they have been fighting the Islamokazis, fighting our fight, and we punished them for it.

Our actions in Bosnia were more shameful than anything the Serbs did.
8 posted on 08/09/2003 10:03:42 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Objects in post may be more clever than they first appear)
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To: alternatediscourse
What's your point? Why post an old article from a
biased lying "neocon" site?
9 posted on 08/09/2003 10:04:35 AM PDT by duckln
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the Serbs were with us fighting the Nazis and the Muslims were collaborators.

And we should base America's foreign policy on a misrepresentation of World War 2 history from the Balkans?

No thanks - the Chetniks spent the majority of their time and effort fighting the Partisans, not the Germans, and in this latest round of fighting, slipped completely into role of the bad guys, as evidenced by Nikolic's statement, and got treated accordingly.

Your logic would have compelled us to side with the Chinese against the Koreans (who were incorporated into the Emperor's forces during WW2 - we'll ignore the actuality of the conditions under which this arose in deference to your reasoning in Bosnia) during the Korean war - not really a policy guideline that suits American interests, is it?

Just out of curiosity, are you familiar with the course of the wars in Yugoslavia during either the 1940's or the 1990's?

10 posted on 08/09/2003 12:51:14 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: bluester
Really?

The best response to this particular claim is to ask for proof, and then make your judgement according to the response.

Try it, it's fun.

11 posted on 08/09/2003 1:11:05 PM PDT by Hoplite
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It sure is great fun when you neo-revisionists repaint history to suit your own color. Where are the numbers of 7K? Do you doubt those numbers were highly maninpulated to suit the cry of that day? What of the physical proof from the names declared dead later showing up in the U.S.A or in various regions of Bosnia? Does that make you look like a fool when your straining to show legitimacy and integrity for your "proof"?
12 posted on 08/09/2003 1:20:31 PM PDT by alternatediscourse (If tires are black, why is the Michelin man white? Answers anyone....?)
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To: duckln
To further expose the continual lying so it can be torn apart, point by point.
13 posted on 08/09/2003 1:24:26 PM PDT by alternatediscourse (If tires are black, why is the Michelin man white? Answers anyone....?)
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Why are 4000 of them rotting in a fridge in Tuzla? And who killed them?
14 posted on 08/09/2003 1:37:00 PM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones
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To: duckln
What's your point? Why post an old article from a
biased lying "neocon" site?>>

Because "biased lying neocon sites" have far more truth than Serbian war propaganda. At least none of them have to post pictures of war porn to make their point.
15 posted on 08/09/2003 1:38:29 PM PDT by Ronly Bonly Jones
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You could fool me as i spoke with a heavy during a full afternoon as i was briefed on intel for the region... croats/muslims=bad guys.... serbs=good guys
17 posted on 08/09/2003 1:56:21 PM PDT by alternatediscourse (If tires are black, why is the Michelin man white? Answers anyone....?)
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who killed them?- muslim infighting was the major contributor and head/head engagement/running fights with armed combatents, civilians caught in the crossfire as that is a standard in all warfare. muslims used them for propoganda shields as that was all decided back in Sarajevo.
18 posted on 08/09/2003 2:01:19 PM PDT by alternatediscourse (If tires are black, why is the Michelin man white? Answers anyone....?)
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Do you doubt those numbers were highly maninpulated to suit the cry of that day?

Provide examples, and then differentiate the uncertainty surrounding the number of missing from Srebrenica with the declining numbers of missing reported from the WTC attack.

When large numbers of people are killed, it takes time to arrive at accurate numbers, this has happened for both the WTC and Srebrenica, and has taken much the same course with the exception that we didn't have to deal with Al Qaeda removing bodies from the WTC to secondary graves in an attempt to lessen their crime, and we don't have to put up with the ignorant attempting to lessen their crime through use of the uncertainties as to the "accurate to within one person" death toll.

What of the physical proof from the names declared dead later showing up in the U.S.A or in various regions of Bosnia?

Cite your supposed physical proof - hell, I'll even take documentary proof linked in your response in place of you sending live persons to my door: you will find 9 names that were duplicated upon the Tuzla voter registration rolls and the Srebrenica missing lists that were subsequently removed from the count of the missing - even though voter registration fraud was found to be the most likely cause. You have made a claim, and I fully expect this discussion to go the way of most Balkans thread issues - when challenged to provide supporting evidence, you will instead choose to talk your way around the lack of support for your position.

Prove me wrong.

What this issue boils down to is the Bosnian Serbs murdered upwards of 7,500 men and boys in pursuit of an illegitimate and indefensible policy which you now find yourself attempting to defend.

You have chosen the wrong fight, AD.

19 posted on 08/09/2003 2:11:05 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: bluester; darkwing104; alternatediscourse
Yes, the situation on the ground now, is that the Muslims and Croats concern SFOR soldiers more than the Serbs. Darkwing104 told me this:

"The Sebs I did meet on patrol were helpful once they discovered we ment them no harm. I wasn't in a position to make friends. With the Croats and Muslims doing their stuff I was in a volitile situation where anyone can start a fire fight over anything. The Croats and Muslims concerned me more then the Serbs."

20 posted on 08/09/2003 2:38:37 PM PDT by joan
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