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Roy's Rock (Note: Ten Commandments - Liberal ACLU Hugger)
MSNBC.Com / Newsweek ^ | 8/22/2003 | Eleanor Clift

Posted on 08/25/2003 7:43:00 PM PDT by Bobby777

Alabama residents are wreaking a nasty revenge on the woman who took their state’s chief justice to court over his religious monument

Aug. 22 — By stubbornly refusing a federal court order to remove the Ten Commandments monument in his courthouse, Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore has been hailed by Christian fundamentalists as a man of great courage. Lesser known, but no less courageous is the woman who dared stand up to Justice Moore.

FOR HIS DEFIANCE, Moore has become a home-state hero, paving the way for a future run for a U.S. Senate seat. For her brave stand, Melinda Maddox has been run out of town. “He’s the most popular man in Alabama, and I am the least popular woman,” says Maddox, a plaintiff in the lawsuit that declared Moore’s monument unconstitutional and called it “nothing less than an obtrusive year-round religious display.”


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: 10commandments; aclu; bible; christianity; hero; oldtestament; pariah; tencommandments
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To: Bobby777
For her brave stand, Melinda Maddox has been run out of town. “He’s the most popular man in Alabama, and I am the least popular woman,” says Maddox,..........


Not brave at all. Religion is being bullied out of the public square by the ACLU scumbags and their accomplices in the Bill Clinton/Jimmy Carter judiciary. If poor little "Melinda" has been run out of town she has only her self to blame.
41 posted on 08/25/2003 11:35:57 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: dennisw
yep. she only got what she asked for.
42 posted on 08/26/2003 12:10:47 AM PDT by Bobby777
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To: Bobby777
WILDLAW STAFF - MAIN OFFICE
Melinda Maddox
Staff Attorney
Lynndi is an experienced practitioner from L.A. (Lower Alabama), who has joined WildLaw to further her career of controversy and commitment to making Alabama a better place. She is involved in cases dealing with protection of public lands and prosecuting polluters and government agencies that do not follow the laws.

43 posted on 08/26/2003 12:13:29 AM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: CapandBall
Who are you to judge someone else's servant?

Does the human mind have a purpose?

44 posted on 08/26/2003 6:33:57 AM PDT by thinktwice
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To: wirestripper
I have seen many versions and slave is not in any of them. Sounds like some PC thinking to me.

It seems to me that PC thinking caused the word slave to be changed to servant in 20th century editions of the Bible.

Slavery was, in fact, acceptable to Christian slaveholders during the 18th and earlier centuries.

45 posted on 08/26/2003 6:41:50 AM PDT by thinktwice
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To: thinktwice
The ancient Hebrews also used slaves, but they were required by religious law to free slaves of their own nationality at certain fixed times.

This happened before Christ and at the beginning. While slaves were necessary to the culture, not all used them and it in no way means they were mistreated, only that they, as a conquered tribe understood what that meant.

The slavery of the later years had nothing to do with war. It became a business where black capitalist operators made money by capturing other tribes for sale overseas.

Another kind of even later slavery occurred in places like Romania, Slovakia and the Balkans. They did not call it slavery, but called it indentured servitude. My grandparents fled that and came to the U.S. As you see, I am not blind to slavery.

No matter if they called them servants or slaves, the fact that is was deemed acceptable does not mean that God would condone it, as you stated. Although quotes from God are rare in scripture, his son did not condone it. The Hebrew language versions of the Ten Commandment have no reference to the word slave. Only your particular Catholic version does.

How strange? But then Catholicism has alway tinkered with words when it suits their purposes and their pocketbook.

46 posted on 08/26/2003 7:23:13 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Nothing in my home is French!)
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To: thinktwice
Slavery was, in fact, acceptable to Christian slaveholders during the 18th and earlier centuries.

As noted by another knowledgeable poster, the King james versions all the way back to the 1700s did not have the word translated as slave when slavery was a legal enterprise.

I think someone took liberty with some words. Not a uncommon thing even today. Especially today.

47 posted on 08/26/2003 7:30:02 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Nothing in my home is French!)
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To: thinktwice
Another reason that the word slave would not be used is that is comes from the French word Slav. It was traced back to the thirteenth century.

Servant is also french and goes back to the 12th century.

I do not know what the original wording/wordings were. The meaning of the commandment is clear however.

"take Sunday off".

48 posted on 08/26/2003 7:41:21 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Nothing in my home is French!)
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To: dennisw
I hope she's happy with herself ...
49 posted on 08/26/2003 9:38:50 AM PDT by Bobby777
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To: thinktwice
"I wonder how many people know that the third commandment condones slavery."

Condones? Sounds like it is mere acknowledgement of a social reality.

A cursory study of scripture (and other historical documents) would show that the 'slavery' practiced by Israel was not like the slavery practiced by America (or like that still being practiced in the Sudan).

In Israel, an individual could sell themselves into 'slavery' (also called bondservanthood) to solve debt problems or to have a way to obtain the necessities of life if there were no other income options. (There was no bankruptcy court or unemployment insurance back then.)

In addition, there were slaves who were prisoners of war. We in America would think that harsh, but compared to how prisoner's of war are treated by most countries throughout the world, even today, making them slaves was a cakewalk.

And by the way, scripture also says that slaves are freed every 7 years (even if their debt was not paid).

50 posted on 08/26/2003 10:24:36 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: thinktwice
"That last part pretty well indicates that the question over the hebrew translation for the words servant and slave is answered -- by the word "belongs."

Reminds me of the clauses in most professional services contracts today. Thou shalt not steal away mine employee. LOL

I guess that 'belongs' thing is not such a big deal after all.

51 posted on 08/26/2003 10:29:39 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: Bobby777
Here's a Ten Commandments Poll.


http://www.hdnews.net/


Thanks

52 posted on 08/26/2003 2:25:51 PM PDT by FreeRep (Proud to be American)
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To: FreeRep
Thanks,

I think we overwhelm the poll site they shut it down.

I live in a another state.


Final:


Yes 11.7% 51
No 87.8% 383
No Opinion 0.5% 2



53 posted on 08/28/2003 1:43:17 PM PDT by FreeRep (Proud to be American)
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To: dennisw
Referring to the photo in this thread, the woman is the very face of fascism in America.

Hannah Arendt coined the phrase "the banality of evil". Remember, even Hitler's dogs loved him.

54 posted on 08/28/2003 2:22:37 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
"The banality of evil" is right. She and a bunch of other losers decided to make a stink about a 10 Commandments stone in a courthouse.
55 posted on 08/28/2003 4:42:05 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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