Schwartzenegger: Supports Brady Bill, closing gun show "loop hole", "assault" weapon ban

Sean Hannity Radio Show ^ | 8-27-03 | Self

[.38sw]

I just had to look it up. I was thinking that every purchase I've made in the last three years must have been illegal, since the waiting period was only 10 days! Which I really hate - I had found a very nice Colt Python a couple of yearsago, and could hardly wait to give it a test drive. The wait seemed endless.

[Atlas Sneezed]

When he says he supports the Brady Bill, does that mean he supports imposing a national waiting period that does not presently exist?

[ElkGroveDan]

So at best, a pro 2nd Amendment conservative Governor could only postpone the inevitable from happening in CA when it comes to gun ownership?

No he can totally prevent it as long as he is governor.

Does a pro 2nd Amendment conservative actually have a viable chance to win in this recall-election?

Absolutely. The turnout in this election will heavily favore people who can't stand Davis; i.e conservatives. Also gun owners are far more likely to turnout to vote than almost anyone else.

Seems the vast majority of voters in CA don't seem to care too much about protecting their gun ownership rights.

You would be able to say that if our gun rights were being eroded by statewide initiative, but they are not. It is being done by the legislature, that the Dems happen to control right now. The average Dem voter is nowhere near as far-left leaning as Dem politicians. Many gun owning Democrats who are union members always poke the Dem on their ballot not realizing that they all vote lock-step when they get to Sacramento.

The last time there was a statewide initiative to ban guns it threw the Governor's office to the Republican candidate. There has not been such an initiative in 25 years because the Dems know they would lose that vote. So instead they work those bills through the legislature with the bare minimum votes in committees and on the floor.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I'd appreciate it.

You stand corrected.

[Registered]

Thank you. I appreciate the information.

[South40]

Believe me...I am happy to be wrong.

I should have known better than to question someone who has purchased a handgun in California in recent years. The last handgun I purchased was a S&W Model 29 .44 Mag. and that was probably around 1990.

The last handgun I obtained was a gift. It's a nickel plated Colt Pocket Positive chambered in .32. I inherited it after it had sat in an attic for over 50 years. Even though it was made in 1903 it's still in pristine condition. I've never fired it.

[Atlas Sneezed]

BTW, Reagan signed the Brady Bill, so I guess that makes him a RINO.

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No, he signed Volkmer McClure, which means that all future generations will essentially be disarmed of having the kinds of arms that our standing army carries.

The law in 1986 stated that no more full-auto arms can be made for civilian ownership perpetually thereafter. It means that such arms have become extremely expensive, and even at those prices they will become progressively obsolete as the generations pass.

Which comports with the gun-grabber's notion that the 2nd amendment doesn't apply to modern arms, but only to muzzle-loaders.

Bush 41 also sold out by banning the importation of many self-loading rifles.

Clinton sold out with the AWB.

Bush 43 sold out by saying he would sign reauthorization of the AWB.

You die-hard Republicans had better start picking more principles candidates if you want your guys to get our votes.

[Atlas Sneezed]

"Let's see, so this report is based completely on rumor, or second-hand report at best?"

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It that the farthest you can stick your head in the sand?

Do you really have reason to doubt the veracity of the post?

Or do you just prefer that the truth about what your man actually says be kept hidden?

[ambrose]

"I would never stand in the way of any child going to school, whether he or she is here legally or illegally, it does not matter."

- Arnold Schwarzenegger, October 2002

[TheDon]

Doesn't Brady already do that?

[CyberCowboy777]

[El Gato]

well who did sign it then?....oh oh...not the same guy who brought us the assault rifle importation ban?.........was it?

Nope, The Impeached One, AKA the "Bent One", signed "Brady" and the Ugly Gun ban. The import ban was done, at least originally, via Treasury regulation under the "Sporting Purposes" test of the '68 GCA, under Bush, the father, egged on by his "drug czar" the compulsive high stakes gambler William Bennett. The "sporting purposes" ban was actually expanded in '98 under the Rapist in Chief.

[El Gato]

NRA-ILA says 10 days. Must have changed with the NICS check. Cramer rarely gets it wrong, but old stuff tends to hang around on the 'net.

[El Gato]

Having these stands is one thing, but realistically speaking, having the ability to actually *do* something about them once in office is another.

True, but if you don't want to at least try to *do* something, the possiblily of getting something done drops to zero.

[.38sw]

I looked it up on the Ca. AG DOJ site, and linked in post 35. I don't know when it changed, since I only bought my first firearm in 1999, and it was 10 days then.

[El Gato]

I should have known better than to question someone who has purchased a handgun in California in recent years.

The NRA/ILA website is a good source of such information, and is rarely more than a year or two behind the laws. Which, considering how fast the gun control laws are expanding, isn't to bad.

[South40]

Yeah...I'm a Life Member and should have thought if that. Thanks for the tip though.

[El Gato]

No, he signed Volkmer McClure, which means that all future generations will essentially be disarmed of having the kinds of arms that our standing army carries.

The law in 1986 stated that no more full-auto arms can be made for civilian ownership perpetually thereafter.

That's not all the law did, it's other name was the Firearm Owners Protection Act, and it removed many of the '68 gun control act restrictions, such as on interstate purchase of ammunition and the requirement to show an ID and have the purchase recorded, when purchasing handgun ammunition. The Machine Gun ban was a very last minute addition to the bill.

[ampat]

I remember an epidsode of the Untouchbles where a gangster tried to buy a .45 auto, but was refused by the store owner because he didn't have a permit. The store owner wouldn't even tell him how many rounds it held since he didn't have a permit. Then the store owner said "I've got something new you might be interested in, and you don't need a permit for it". The storeowner pulls out a Thompson sub-machine gun and sells it to the gangster. How soon before it will be easier to get a federal firearms license to own an automatic weapon, than to buy a handgun.

[Atlas Sneezed]

Doesn't Brady already do that?

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Based on my experience living in more than one state, there is NO waiting period under federal law. Brady is simply about the background check when buying from a federal firearms dealer.

[jokar]

Registered wrote....So at best, a pro 2nd Amendment conservative Governor could only postpone the inevitable from happening in CA when it comes to gun ownership?
Dan replied . . . No he can totally prevent it as long as he is governor.

The wussy dems are a lot less likely to even try anything like this with a strong Gov. That's why I'm voting I'm voting Tom.

They already know he won't put up with that stuff.