NEXT: NO CIGS IN YOUR CAR

New York Post ^ | 9/22/03 | KENNETH LOVETT

[kattracks]

September 22, 2003 -- ALBANY - Smoking even in the privacy of your own car could be banned under one of at least five state bills introduced in the past year to limit where a person can light up.

From public beaches to carnivals to a person's private vehicle, the legislation would make it more difficult for smokers to take a drag.

[kattracks]

ping

[agitator]

Gauleiter Alexander "Pete" Grannis was also quoted as asking a member of his constituency "Perhaps you have relatives in Ger....New York? Ya?"

[FairOpinion]

This is REAL invasion of privacy.

I never could understand that people scream about the sensible measures needed to catch terrorists and protect us and don't revolt over such total invasions of privacy for absolutely no reason, except because the government wants to do it.

[FairOpinion]

So what do you think about this total invasion of privacy and individual rights by the government?

[EternalVigilance]

It's a crock. Makes me so mad I think I'll go have a smoke...

[honeygrl]

But the sponsors of the bills deny such intent. They said each anti-smoking bill has its own merit, including protecting children, helping New York businesses, and reducing litter.

PLEASE think of the CHILDREN!!!!! /sarcasm

[agitator]

It's much worse than you think.

http://taor.agitator.dynip.com/on_law.htm

[weegee]

Does this nannystate law apply to those who drive open air cars like convertibles?

I can guess that the answer is yes, one of those 5 bills proably cites how it is hazardous to drive with a smoke in one hand (at least part of the time). Don't know if they'll outlaw drive-thru food bags in the front seat though...

[smadurski]

The master plan is to totaly ban smoking. They are doing it in increments first mandatory no smoking in public places then cars then your own home. Perhaps they will pass a law saying you need a govt issued stamp to have cigs but, to get the stamp you must be in possesion of cigs which would be illegal. This is how they made pot illegal. In ten years tobacco will be illegal and pot will be legal if these people have their way. One day a hardened criminal will drive while unbuckled smoking a cig.

[Eastbound]

pUFF

[f.Christian]

Now in the mall, I looked straight ahead at the Chase cash bank, where there were some 100 people cowering; screaming, some hysterically started to run out of the bank and down the hall, as now the mall was rapidly filling up with thick black smoke. I was hanging onto this firefighter for dear life, while telling him, “You cannot go in there - that place is exploding down around our heads!" He looked at me and in the calmest manner said, “Honey it's going to be okay, its my job. You just get out of here." He asked me if I new where the Borders book store was and I said yes, so he said, “Go there and get out as fast as you can”. By this time he had a whole battalion behind him and they went in towards the lobby. I started for the Borders at top speed, while hearing secondary explosions going off above my head, almost like an .08 gage gun or larger. All this made me want to hit the floor and all I could think was, "What in God's name is happening up there?"

I found myself next to a man who is taking out a cigarette, all the time while we both were running. I was thinking, "I could sure use one of those right now!" He tried to light it with very shaky hands at a dead run, when a Port Authority security guard (directing people to safety) said in a very Brooklyn-ish accent, ... “Hey buddy this is a no smoking zone! You can't light that down here!” The man looked back at the guard, aghast, and I'm sure I had the same look on my face! The man said, “You have to be f-ing kidding me! This place is burning down around us, we are all going to die, and by God I am going to have my last cigarette before I go!” I managed at least one laugh that morning, as it was funny as hell, and I wished I could have stopped to get a cigarette from him myself. But the mood quickly turned serious again, as I came upon two portly grandmothers in their late 60's or early 70's; they're holding onto each other, crying, unable to keep up with the mass exodus. The explosions above our heads on the plaza were scaring them and they kept stopping. I grabbed one of their hands and told them to hold on and keep up. Dragging them behind me, I told them to worry about any resulting medical problems later - for now we had to get out of there! I thought to myself, "If I can just get out, we can get to a hospital if someone starts to stroke out."

[gd124]

They'll never ban smoking. They're more addicted to the tax revenue than any smoker is to nicotine.

[BnBlFlag]

And they think there is an underground drug economy. Just wait for this prohibition. I might just have to restart smoking just to spit in theur faces.

[Cvengr]

If elected bodies of men allow, condone or even tolerate this type of legislation, it is merely a matter of time and differing circumstances before they will also attack any other issue which per chance touches upon their personal selves, a scarred conscience, an arrogant self-defensive reaction, seeking to control that which they do not own, but believe will carnally advance their position.

They are the natural man, a soulish brute, lacking more advanced life of the righteous spirit, but instead react to their scarred souls seeking things of arrogance and selfishness.

They have no love for others who might even be like themselves, and hate even moreso those who endure their attacks. They are probably good for nothing, but until the first death are fulfilling some purpose probably unknown to us at present. Perhaps they simply serve to manifest to all human history that complete emptiness is preferable to their chosen path independent of God.

[PeoplesRepublicOfWashington]

Given that 'Rats love to focus on minutia like this, no wonder 9/11 happened! Get a life, 'Rats!

[Squantos]

LOL............ I saw a concept car last week that would not let one use the cellular phone or change the tape/CD/station on the stereo unless the vehicle was stopped and transmission in park. Also if the seatbelt wasn't being worn the vehicle could not be shifted out of park. Also the vehicle would go no faster than the federal speed limit. Collision avoidnance braking operational when vehicle was moving faster than 10 mph. Auto dimming bright headlights for environment encountered and approaching vehicles . The vanity mirrors were removed from visors as was the rear view mirror inside , replaced by a LCD screen to preclude the application of makeup, brushing hair or yer basic self lovin mirror licker syndrome.

I suspect the vehicle will never see production as it kills all possibilities for source of local revenue based on BS local laws such as we see on the rise in this story..........Only thing I saw missing was a big clanging bell/siren/flashing light to wake those who travel for 40 miles with their turn signal on. But the designer did jot that note down so blame me if it sees production.

Stay Safe Kattracks !

[mysterio]

I hope that they do just ban it. It didn't work for pot or anything else. That will cut a boatload of money off to the government. I believe neither in democrats nor republicans anymore. They've gutted the Constitution, and it is what they swore to defend. Our rights, freedoms, and civil liberties are all conditional now. Many of the Freepers support anything that is proposed by a conservative republican, even if it is liberal Clinton type policy. Generally, 80 percent of the population supports every piece of legislation that persecutes smokers, and republicans are voting for them, too. Even conservative cities are banning smoking in bars, infringing on property rights. On top of that, cities are taking properties through eminent domain to build strip malls. You are only free if you break the law. The average driver breaks 7 laws just driving to work. I don't call any of this freedom. In 1999, republicans were my hope to protect freedom and individual rights. I will not vote for them again. I'm sorry, President Bush. I voted for you, and I respect you. I think you are a good person. I support freeing Iraq from tyranny. However, I cannot support what you and others in your party are doing to individual liberty. If you want to protect something important, try protecting the Constitution.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

Sop how much will it take for the People of America to fight back right now its just a cigarette ! of course there is prayer the bible ,God ,Ten Commandments ,Second amendment rights ,property rights just a snip here a snip there over the years they will have us trimmed down to the way we should look one day the very people we used to know as friends will wake up and wonder WOW i used to be able to BBQ on my back porch or yard why am i being arrested for cooking ribs no one told me meat was outlawed.