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A World Without Luther
Then Face to Face ^
| October 31, 2008
| Bryan Veloso.
Posted on 10/31/2008 8:15:05 AM PDT by Gamecock
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posted on
10/31/2008 8:15:07 AM PDT
by
Gamecock
To: Gamecock
I am a catholic....but....Luther had it right. Unfortunately, the Catholic church at that time brought the reformation on itself.
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posted on
10/31/2008 8:17:54 AM PDT
by
Dudoight
To: drstevej; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; jboot; AZhardliner; ...
Reformation Day Ping
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posted on
10/31/2008 8:18:23 AM PDT
by
Gamecock
("...Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles" and both to Americans.)
To: Gamecock
Nice article —
Happy Reformation Day! Sola Deo Gloria!
Hoss
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posted on
10/31/2008 8:20:29 AM PDT
by
HossB86
To: Dudoight
Luther had some things right. The selling of indulgences was nuts.
Salvation by Faith alone? If you’re “Catholic”, how say you?
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posted on
10/31/2008 8:22:13 AM PDT
by
steve8714
(Why do we pray for peace at Mass, never for freedom?)
To: steve8714
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posted on
10/31/2008 8:28:27 AM PDT
by
Dudoight
To: Gamecock
Glory be to the Father, And to the Son, And to the Holy Ghost; As it was in the beginning, Is now, And ever shall be, World without end. Amen. Amen. |
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posted on
10/31/2008 8:28:53 AM PDT
by
P8riot
(I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
To: Gamecock
Nice article.
About 5 years ago we started celebrating "Reformation Day." Today my kids still get excited about it and rush to remind me that it's Reformation Day and they look forward to watching the movie Luther
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posted on
10/31/2008 8:29:18 AM PDT
by
ksen
(Don't steal. The government hates the competition. - sign on Ron Paul's desk)
To: Gamecock
If there had been no Luther, there probably would be no Obama.
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posted on
10/31/2008 8:55:37 AM PDT
by
vladimir998
(Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
To: Gamecock
If I was a Lutheran, I would not know what to do. Which Lutheran church should I belong to? There are at least a dozen (in America alone) and they have different teachings about Scripture and the life God demands of us. Maybe they all agree on the justification thing .. but there's way more to Christianity than that.
The Missouri Synod says homosexuality is gravely sinful ... are they right? Or is it okay to be gay and join the ECLA?
Division and confusion. Thanks Luther. You're the best.
Apostolic Lutheran Church of America
Association of Free Lutheran Congregations
Church of the Lutheran Brethren of America
Church of the Lutheran Confession
Confessional Evangelical Lutheran Conference
Evangelical Community Church-Lutheran
Evangelical Lutheran Diocese of North America
Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod
Lutheran Congregations in Mission for Christ
Lutheran Evangelical Protestant Church
Lutheran Ministerium and Synod
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
To: Gamecock
I’d wish Luther wouldn’t have been so antisemitic.
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posted on
10/31/2008 10:39:00 AM PDT
by
onedoug
( Barracuda!)
To: vladimir998
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posted on
10/31/2008 10:44:39 AM PDT
by
Theo
(Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
To: Dudoight
Dear Friend, the Church has undergone reformation from within through the ages,Luther was a prideful man who sought to do it on his own outside of the Church.
Here is an example of what Martin Luther wrote..
“”Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly.... as long as we are here [in this world] we have to sin.... No sin will separate us from the Lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day.” Letter to Melanchthon, August 1,1521 Luther's Works, vol. 48
You can see why the church did not need Luther to be part of the internal reformation from within
This is one of the best and most accurate articles concerning the reformation. Please take the time to read it.
http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/protestantism/protesy.htm
Here is some info on Hilaire Belloc- the Author of the article
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/apologetics/ap0035.html
I wish you a Blessed day!
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posted on
10/31/2008 10:56:22 AM PDT
by
stfassisi
(The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi))
To: Gamecock; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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posted on
10/31/2008 1:23:15 PM PDT
by
narses
(http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: vladimir998
If there had been no Luther, there probably would be no Obama.Are you familiar with a book called "Revolution and Counter-revolution"?
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posted on
10/31/2008 1:29:43 PM PDT
by
Pyro7480
(This Papist for Palin asks everyone to pray the Rosary for our country!)
To: Lilllabettt
The Missouri Synod says homosexuality is gravely sinful ... are they right? Or is it okay to be gay and join the ECLA? My suggestion would be to read the Bible and determine which church, be it Lutheran or other, best fits your beliefs. Even Luther said that, in matters of faith, you should let your conscious be your guide.
Too many people ignore the Bible and put their beliefs in the words of man, not the Word of God.
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posted on
10/31/2008 1:33:29 PM PDT
by
mlocher
(USA is a sovereign nation)
To: steve8714
The selling of indulgences was nuts.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It was more than nuts. It was a sinful abomination. Those who promoted it have had to answer to God and to Jesus Christ for misleading and misusing so many innocent believers.
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posted on
10/31/2008 1:33:52 PM PDT
by
wintertime
(Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
To: Dudoight
Paul said, "Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything but only faith
working through love."
That's the Biblical position. That's the Catholic position.
Unfortunately, it isn't Luther's position.
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posted on
10/31/2008 1:39:29 PM PDT
by
Campion
(Vote for Obama and Get Nuclear War for Free!)
To: mlocher
My suggestion would be to read the Bible and determine which church, be it Lutheran or other, best fits your beliefs. So much for objective truth.
Even Luther said that, in matters of faith, you should let your conscious be your guide.
Of course, if your "conscious" told you that the Catholics were right, you came under another one of Luther's sayings; the one where he told his followers to "Wash your hands in the Papists' blood".
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posted on
10/31/2008 1:42:23 PM PDT
by
Campion
(Vote for Obama and Get Nuclear War for Free!)
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