Sun-Times columnist Father Andrew Greeley in critical condition

Chicago Sun-Times ^ | November 8, 2008 | Shamus Toomey

[Tax-chick]

Excellent points.

[netmilsmom]

>>I hope it knocked some sense into him and he asks for forgiveness.<<

You, my FRiend have the best response!!!!!

[netmilsmom]

>>but maybe that is for Christians, not Catholics<<

Um, maybe you didn’t notice this before, but Catholics are Christians.

[Rutles4Ever]

Prayers for the speedy recovery of this consecrated man of the cloth. May his heart draw closer to God and may we all be aware of our own sinfulness before we judge this man’s soul.

[tob2]

“Lord, forgive this miserable SOB his sins.”

Yes. This is a terrible injury that many people never recover from. I pray that God be with him now.

[Jaded]

Did you not see any of the replies on the Pray for Our President Elect thread? Thanks for playing.

[Desdemona]

Actually, those comments from Catholics are very Christian. For us, there is nothing more vital than being in a state of grace - that means having confessed sins, been granted absolution and serving our penance.

Greeley regularly preaches error and sows the seeds of dissension, which for a priest is a grave sin. May God forgive him for that.

[Irene Adler]

"I do think however that priests and bishops have a special and terrifying trust, since they are responsible for their flock under orders from Christ Himself."

My (Mo Synod Lutheran) Pastor agrees with you. He says this of himself and of Pastors, generally.

[VidMihi]

You have written:
“Greeley regularly preaches error and sows the seeds of dissension, which for a priest is a grave sin.”

I would ask - who are those who have decided that Andrew Greeley preaches error and sows the seeds of dissension. I know of no Church council which as so decided . I know of no bishop who has so declared. He is a priest in good standing, says Mass regularly and is asked to speak to priests and bishops on a regular basis. His research is respected at all levels of the Church, even by those who may disagree with some of his conclusions.

I ask further - who are the self-righteous of such superior wisdom and holiness who accuse this priest of grave sin?

I have said that I know of no Christians who would so act, but apparently there are many who consider themselves super-catholics (I obeyed all the rules so why don’t they ) who are totally lacking in the charity that marks a true Christian. Catholics are supposed to be Christians but often do not act like it. They are CINO - Christians in name only.

[netmilsmom]

Um, excuse me?

This is really simple and has nothing to do with charity.

At my corner is a stop sign. The rule is that all cars must stop there.

If a red car, with licence plate number 123 456 is owned by Joe and every day I see Joe blow that stop sign, then I can say, “Joe is a lawbreaker”.

I don’t need a city council to tell me so.

And no one here is saying they obey ALL the rules. But most of us try. Fr. Greeley is mislead but still breaks the rules and is unrepentant.

[farmer18th]

"Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up..."

"Father" Greeley:

They have only themselves--and Rome--to blame. Thirty-two years ago, when Pope Paul VI issued Humanae Vitae, his encyclical banning most forms of birth control, the bishops, like the Vatican itself, lost all credibility with lay Catholics on reproductive issues.

I'm not Catholic, but here's a priest who claims Rome, the American Bishops, and the Vatican itself has "lost all credibility" on reproductive (read LIFE) issues.

He's a sham imposter, and those who claim to teach His ways, face a higher standard. God will judge, thankfully, but Father Greeley seems very much like a poisonous weed to me.

[tiki]

Public sin is...well, public. You can be assured that we are all sinners but a public person has much more responisibility. To paraphrase, to whom much is given, much is expected.

[Tax-chick]

Judging Fr. Greeley’s state of soul is indeed beyond our purview.

However, anyone with a “Catechism of the Catholic Church” and 8th-grade reading comprehension skills can identify much of his writing’s content as erroneous. This is a simple question of fact, beyond argument.

[Ann Archy]

You are OBVIOUSLY not a Catholic.