"Where Were You, God?"

HiTech RedNeck | 5/19/2013 | HiTech RedNeck

[daniel1212]

And of course, people have long since pointed out that many of the rules of the OT have been relaxed as the all-knowing, unchanging entity changes his mind about polyester blends, and reasons for smiting your neighbor. ]

I am sorry but that is exampling more ignorance. God did not change His mind, but foretold "Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord: " (Jeremiah 31:31-32)

And in Scripture there are different covenants and a manifest distinction between purely moral laws, which are transcendentally directly applicable to all cultures (no idolatry, adultery, etc.), as well as culturally applied laws (fence around your roof) which are based on them and are applicable to different cultures by adaptation based on principal, and then there are typological/ceremonial laws, which relate to ritual observance of "days, and months, and times, and years. " (Galatians 4:10) and "in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation," (Hebrews 9:10) "Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ." (Colossians 2:17)

The requirement of a sacrificial lamb for instance was a type foreshadowing of Christ who made the shadow, and laws against unclean foods typified the Gentile who are made clean by Christ. While the holy intent of all the laws are to be fulfilled by Christians, and which requires the literal keeping of moral laws beyond just the letter, the literal observance of ceremonial laws are not, but such things as the principal of separation from defilement is, and looking to Christ as the Lamb of God which taketh away the sins of the world. (Jn. 1:29)

While relativists seek to dispense with transcendent moral laws based on the abrogation of ceremonial laws, this is contrary to "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. " (2 Timothy 2:15)

[PieterCasparzen]

It sounds like a horror show if you only look at the verses you want to highlight and exclude the meanings of the rest which would give you a true understanding of what is revealed in the stories.

Life is a horror show; there are catastrophes, wars, accidents, etc.; the happenings during those times were no different in that respect to any other times.

Your writings are accusing God of being evil.

You may think you're "smart", or perhaps you're just a snarky little person with an axe to grind.

You blame God for not helping poor you.

Speaking evil of God is blasphemy. I notice everyone as been quite tolerant on this thread in not complaining to the moderators of such things.

Of course, the tolerance is all because Christians always want to bring the Bible to unbelievers.

I would just appreciate if you would perhaps say something other than the same old thing you've repeated here ad nauseum, that in your so high-and-mighty intelligent full-of-yourself opinion you think that the Old Testament reveals a God who is not just.

The grumble you posit is addressed by basic Biblical doctrine - which makes it clear you either have not studied, or you're in a hissy-fit of denial of Christ.

No matter how much you stomp your feet and scream, God is a just God. If you studied the Bible you'd know that the nations in the Bible that got pillaged deserved it. When the nation of Israel lost a battle, God was chastising them. They broke their covenants with God, God did not break them. When pagan nations were pillaged - they deserved it because their wicked ways also were against the same Law of God.

You're arguing about things that you know zero about. The questions you ask show your ignorance.

And your ignorance is wilful, because you are aware of the Bible and could study it.

But you love your sin more than you love God.

God willing, you will see your own sin and repent before you die, and you will appeal to the mercy of God, that by his Grace you might be saved. If not, you will die in your sins. Either way, God will be glorified in that his perfect justice will be manifested. And you can rest comfortably either way, because God has ordained what the outcome of everyone's life will be. If you will die in your sin, then, AS IT IS WRITTEN,

Ecclesiastes 9

"1 For all this I considered in my heart even to declare all this, that the righteous, and the wise, and their works, are in the hand of God: no man knoweth either love or hatred by all that is before them.

2 All things come alike to all: there is one event to the righteous, and to the wicked; to the good and to the clean, and to the unclean; to him that sacrificeth, and to him that sacrificeth not: as is the good, so is the sinner; and he that sweareth, as he that feareth an oath.

3 This is an evil among all things that are done under the sun, that there is one event unto all: yea, also the heart of the sons of men is full of evil, and madness is in their heart while they live, and after that they go to the dead.

4 For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion.

5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.

7 Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works.

8 Let thy garments be always white; and let thy head lack no ointment.

9 Live joyfully with the wife whom thou lovest all the days of the life of thy vanity, which he hath given thee under the sun, all the days of thy vanity: for that is thy portion in this life, and in thy labour which thou takest under the sun.

10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.

11 I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.

12 For man also knoweth not his time: as the fishes that are taken in an evil net, and as the birds that are caught in the snare; so are the sons of men snared in an evil time, when it falleth suddenly upon them.

13 This wisdom have I seen also under the sun, and it seemed great unto me:

14 There was a little city, and few men within it; and there came a great king against it, and besieged it, and built great bulwarks against it:

15 Now there was found in it a poor wise man, and he by his wisdom delivered the city; yet no man remembered that same poor man.

16 Then said I, Wisdom is better than strength: nevertheless the poor man's wisdom is despised, and his words are not heard.

17 The words of wise men are heard in quiet more than the cry of him that ruleth among fools.

18 Wisdom is better than weapons of war: but one sinner destroyeth much good."

[A_perfect_lady]

The polite thing to do, once the moderator has told someone they are not to be on this thread, is to stop pinging them.

[GBA]

Thank you for the tip! I've seen the title, but hadn't looked beyond the cover. I'll check it out.

This "Life" experience we were born into, the physical world and its rules, the unseen world and its rules, the on going story we have to figure out, along with a body and inner experience that is totally unique to each of us, is such an interesting set of challenges.

It feels like logging in to the most advanced and amazing role playing beyond 3D/total immersion video game, with a storyline/theme, multi-levels and challenges, various skills and things to acquire, damage, stories within stories, traps, consequences, you name it, including an ultimate prize to win the game.

The catch is, you have to figure it out all by your self, and you only get to play one time.

And, not everyone starts at the same place. You could start with all the advantages or none at all or with some major handicaps that put you well behind everyone around you.

It's a very interesting challenge, not a game at all.

And, with the dark side working against your every step, it's just hard to know for sure what is going on and what things really mean until "GAME OVER", when you sit down with the Programmer and go over how you played the game and where you go for the next level.

[roamer_1]

"But if not..."

Yup. 'Thy will, not mine'... a very important point.

[Craftmore]

You keep hunting the snark but all you find are boojums

[Elsie]

That's an awful lot of words that still does not illustrate your claim: ... this she did, thus she repented and was saved.

[Elsie]

The polite thing to do, once the moderator has told someone they are not to be on this thread, is to stop pinging them.

Oh?

Where did this happen?

All I saw was: #312

This thread is posted in the Religion Forum. And Free Republic is pro-God, in particular the Judeo/Christian understanding of God.

[Elsie]

Roosting in the tumtum tree no doubt.

[Salvation]

I’m not sure if you do know the Apostles Creed, becuase it all came from Scripture.
I believe in God, (in Scripture)
the Father almighty, (in Scripture)
Creator of heaven and earth (in Scripture)

and in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord, (in Scripture)
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit (in Scripture)
born of the Virgin Mary, (in Scripture)
suddered under Pontius Pilate, (in Scripture)
was crucified, died and was buried; (in Scripture)
he descended into hell; (in Scripture)
on the third day he rose again from the dead; (in Scripture)
he ascended into Heaven (in Scripture)
and is seated at the right hand of God the Father almighty, (in Scripture)
deom there he will come to judge the living and the dead. (in Scripture)

I blieve in the Holy Spirit (in Scripture)
the holy catholic Church, (in Scripture)
the communion of saints, (in Scripture)
the forgiveness of sins, (in Scripture)
the resurrection of the body. (in Scripture)
and life everlasting. Amen (in Scripture)

These exact words may not all be in Scripture but references to them are — such as Christ speaking to the Good Thief, and the souls of the just arising from their tombs and wandering around Jerusalem, visible only to the believers.

So believe!
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[Salvation]

I checked the wording in that Religion Moderator post. It does not say the person is suspended from the thread. It just talks about FR being pro-God.

[A_perfect_lady]

The Mod and I have head-butted before. I am not to express atheist views on this forum. I usually don’t, but I didn’t notice it was in the Religious forum when I first posted. They all show up in the newsfeed and I forget they are categorized.

[Craftmore]

Show me verse and chapter in scripture where it says holy Catholic church?

[roamer_1]

So believe!

Sorry, but I never was a fan of crib notes. nor am I a fan of creeds whose purpose turns out to be exclusionary... Especially creeds that were accepted by use of the sword. The blood spilled in order to enforce the nicene creed is enough in and of itself to make it's use wholly repugnant.

And it still does not answer the basic question: 'Believe what?'

I will stand very firmly upon the Word on that one.

[Salvation]

“Many are called but few are chosen.” You are familiar with that verse aren’t you?

You do remember that catholic with a little c means universal — for all?? I thought you knew that! Thanks.

[Salvation]

So glad that you agree that Scripture is the source of the Creed and that you stand on that.

God bless!

[roamer_1]

So glad that you agree that Scripture is the source of the Creed and that you stand on that.

Riight. That is every bit as disingenuous as the Mormons. I stand upon the scriptures, not your creeds.

[Salvation]

You said:
**I will stand very firmly upon the Word on that one.**

Each line of the Creed is from Scripture — the Word.

So I am not being disingenous at all. Every line of the creed is supported in Scripture and you say you stand firmly on Scripture.

Congratulations! You do believe — you just didn’t know it.

Now — if there is a line there that you think is not supported in Scripture, please let me know.

[pax_et_bonum]

Please do not post to me again.

Thank you.

[Craftmore]

No,You said Holy catholic church was in scripture.Im asking you again to show me verse and chapter where it states the words “holy catholic church”