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To: lupie
1. The first 3 you cite are in the KJB line of Bibles.

I told you the modern Bibles (including the NKJ) read differently.

2. You think that the ESV and NIV are saying the same thing as the KJB, AKJV and Geneva?

The ESV and NIV is saying that all who came out of Egypt rebelled.

The KJB, AKJB and Geneva are saying that not all who came out of Egypt rebelled (i.e. Jacob and Caleb)

You really need some reading lessons.

81 posted on 09/23/2013 12:49:35 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Why the personal insult? Whose purpose does that serve?

Did you reread Hebrews Chapter 3 - 5? Did you pay specific attention to Hebrews 3:9 where ALL the versions talk about the entire generation? Do you realize that the Greek words from all translations are the same? The word “howbeit” seems to be what is throwing you off as well as the placement of the negative. And if you read Hebrews 3:17 in the other versions, it makes it clear that the ones whom God was provoked with - those whose bodies fell in the wilderness.

So, in essence, all these versions say the same things translated from the same Greek words. If you look up all the Greek words, you will find that the ESV and NIV versions say it in a much clearer way. The KJV, etc say the same thing, but in a very awkward way because of how they use the word, “howbeit” and how they translate the Greek word, “tis” as “some” where the others translate is as “who were those”. The KJV actually uses about 42 different words or phrases to translate that one Greek word! 42!!!!


82 posted on 09/23/2013 1:19:02 PM PDT by lupie
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