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To: Errant

By the way,you didn’t answer my question. Can you be saved without repenting? And do you know why the the thief wasn’t baptized? For the same reason Abraham, Moses or the prophets weren’t baptized. Christ had not died, had not been buried, and had not risen again when they all died.

But now we must die to our sins and be buried in baptism and be raised in newness of life for the forgiveness of our sins. Cherry picking one or two passages alone is unscriptual.


14 posted on 10/23/2013 5:39:47 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd; Errant
...which is exactly what the Holy Spirit does the moment we are saved. "For by ONE SPIRIT are we all BAPTIZED INTO ONE BODY..."(1 Cor. 12:13). It is the Holy Spirit that places us (baptizes us) into Christ the very moment we trust in the finished work of Christ.

And how do we KNOW it's a SPIRITUAL BAPTISM and NOT a WATER BAPTISM?

"For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the GOdhead bodily. And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: In whom also ye are CIRCUMCISED with the circumcision MADE WITHOUT HANDS, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: BURIED with him in BAPTISM, wherein also ye are RISEN with him through the FAITH OF THE OPERATION OF GOD, who hath raised him from the dead." (Col.2:9-14). This is ALL about the Holy Spirit's work. It is ALL SPIRITUAL. NOT physical. The baptism is no more physical than the circumcision is.

16 posted on 10/23/2013 5:51:54 PM PDT by smvoice (HELP! I'm trapped inside this body and I can't get out!)
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